Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

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Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by StyleGarden » Sun May 22, 2011 12:51 pm

Whats up gang? I love Mallorca and her tropical plants and warm climate.

Is this Washingtonia robusta in the middle and Phoenix canariensis to the left and right?
http://imageshack.us/m/703/4691/isthisjpg.jpg

Are these both Phoenix canariensis? If so, why are the trunk so different?
http://imageshack.us/m/228/2580/isthis2jpg.jpg


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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Sun May 22, 2011 1:00 pm

Hi Style Garden and welcome! icon_salut

The palm in the first photo may not be a washy. I think it may be a sabal palm.
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Conifers » Sun May 22, 2011 1:15 pm

In the second pic, the young one still has the old leaf bases on hiding the trunk, in the old one, they've mostly worn off (but still present on the newer, upper part of the trunk just below the leaves).


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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by grub » Sun May 22, 2011 1:27 pm

I'd say they're Washies and not Sabals, especially when you take cost and availability into account. icon_thumright
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Sun May 22, 2011 1:32 pm

grub wrote:I'd say they're Washies and not Sabals, especially when you take cost and availability into account. icon_thumright
I would have thought washies would have had a thinner trunk?
Apart from the trunk it does look like a washy to me though. icon_thumright

Here is a photo of a similar looking palm that is a sabal
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Sun May 22, 2011 1:37 pm

Just looked at the orginal photo again and yep, it is a washy!


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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by leewatson1980 » Sun May 22, 2011 1:44 pm

Conifers wrote:In the second pic, the young one still has the old leaf bases on hiding the trunk, in the old one, they've mostly worn off (but still present on the newer, upper part of the trunk just below the leaves).
do they wear off then conifers, I always assumed they were trimmed that way.
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Conifers » Sun May 22, 2011 1:49 pm

leewatson1980 wrote:do they wear off then conifers, I always assumed they were trimmed that way.
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They're trimmed in the young one - you can see the cut apex of the leaf bases. The old bases then eventually rot away and drop off. No doubt it would be possible to clean them off earlier, but it'd be difficult (= expensive).


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Post by leewatson1980 » Sun May 22, 2011 1:54 pm

makes sense :)

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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Nathan » Sun May 22, 2011 2:09 pm

They are definitely Washingtonia, but look more like filifera or filibusta than robusta to me...
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by StyleGarden » Mon May 23, 2011 5:20 pm

So the middle one is Washingtonia and the others are Phoenix canariensis?


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Post by grub » Mon May 23, 2011 5:43 pm

that's correct icon_thumright
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Dave Brown » Mon May 23, 2011 6:12 pm

Image 1 ) Centre ones are Washingtonia filifera with stout trunks and a much larger crown then W. robusta. Either side are Phoenix canariensis Phoenix canariensis_CIDP very tightly trimmed. :wink:

Image 2 ) They are both Phoenix canariensis Phoenix canariensis_CIDP the tall one has a tightly trimmed trunk. The shorter one has a much more lax trimmed trunk. Meaning the leaf bases have not been cut as close in, or the stalks have been left longer :wink:
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by grub » Mon May 23, 2011 6:53 pm

Conifers wrote: The old bases then eventually rot away and drop off. No doubt it would be possible to clean them off earlier, but it'd be difficult (= expensive).
Dangerous too as the whole skirt can drop away and trap you :shock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br7-eN8N ... re=related
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Re: Is this W.robusta and Phoenix canariensis ?

Post by Nigel » Mon May 23, 2011 7:27 pm

StyleGarden wrote:Whats up gang? I love Mallorca and her tropical plants and warm climate.

Is this Washingtonia robusta in the middle and Phoenix canariensis to the left and right?
http://imageshack.us/m/703/4691/isthisjpg.jpg

Are these both Phoenix canariensis? If so, why are the trunk so different?
http://imageshack.us/m/228/2580/isthis2jpg.jpg
The first pic is washingtonia filifera.
The second pic shows the different trimming techniques. they like to cut the trunk fine and smooth lower down and then leave the boots above to create pineapple effect on top of smooth trunk.

Edit,just realised Dave already said the same thing :oops:
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