Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

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Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Dave Brown » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:55 pm

My big Cycas revoluta Cycas rev01, started to go into flush back on June 16th. Slowly at first, but is now erupting in a big way.

The damage to the existing fronds was caused by the -10C we had with just a single fleece bag for protection.

16th June Flush first noticed
2011-06-16 10-26-20 Cycas rev01 flush start.jpg
23rd June flush under way
2011-06-23 08-55-32 Cycas rev01 flush.jpg
29th June flush continues
2011-06-29 11-06-36 Cycas rev01 flush.jpg
29th June Trunk shot
2011-06-29 11-07-44 Cycas rev01 trunk.jpg
4th July ( Today ) flush continues
2011-07-04 11-31-22 Cycas rev01 flush.jpg
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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Tom2006 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:58 pm

Looks coiled! Do you lift it in winter?
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Post by sanatic1234 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:06 pm

How do you get so many flushes dave? Do they flush more the older the plant is? or is it your extra nice climate that it loves :D
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Summer 2013 was a good one :-).

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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Dave Brown » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:11 pm

Tom2006 wrote:Looks coiled! Do you lift it in winter?
Coiled? icon_scratch

No stays out. Was planted in 2002.

San, since planting out it flushed in 2003, 2007, 2009, and now 2011 :wink:
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Post by Tom2006 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:15 pm

Coiled as in a spring ready to go! A real beauty!
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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Mr List » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:25 pm

Dave Brown wrote:
Tom2006 wrote:Looks coiled! Do you lift it in winter?
Coiled? icon_scratch

No stays out. Was planted in 2002.

San, since planting out it flushed in 2003, 2007, 2009, and now 2011 :wink:

have or rather can you tell that it has changed/grown in the time since you first got it?

i tend to think of these like living garden ornaments with their growth patterns.


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Post by sanatic1234 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:39 pm

So it has flushed every 2 years for the past 4 years. I wonder if this could be a cycle building then Dave? And sorry must of mistaken you for someone else last year who's cycas was flushing. icon_scratch Possibly may of been simba??
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Post by cordyman » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:54 am

That's impressive Dave and to have come through last winter outside!


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Post by kata » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:26 am

Excellent Dave,

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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Dave Brown » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:39 am

Mr List wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:No stays out. Was planted in 2002.

San, since planting out it flushed in 2003, 2007, 2009, and now 2011 :wink:

have or rather can you tell that it has changed/grown in the time since you first got it?

i tend to think of these like living garden ornaments with their growth patterns.
I've had this one since 1994, and yes you could say it has changed. Here just after being bought in 1994, sorry about the white pot, they were the fashion then :lol:
Cycas rev01 1994.jpg
Five years later in 1999, still potted, and several flushes later. No real internet info around at that time, so was treated as a pot plant. Watered a couple of times a week in summer and fed occasionally.
Cycas rev01 1999.jpg
It was planted out in 2002 in the sunniest. warmest spot in the garden, against the south facing lounge wall. It gets about 4 hours midwinter sun when it's shining. Again was treated as a newly planted shrub and watered well in summer to settle it in.

Here in 2003 the first flush since planting out, and was bigger that expected.
Cycas rev01 Aug 2003.jpg
Then I read on the internet that they want to be kept as dry as possible so from 2004 I didn't water. :roll: This coincided with the driest 2 year period (2004/5) for over 100 years. It was baked dry. The caudex grew a small amount but in hind sight with so little water it did not risk a flush. The drought continued up to July 2006, and in August it started to rain, but too late for a 2006 flush. You can see the leaves have not really opened out much from 2003 to 2006, which says to me they survive drought, not thrive in it.
Cyril Cycad Jul 2006.jpg
Once we had some decent rains, the leaves opened out quickly. Also in early 2007 while discussing lack of flush on the ukoasis forum, a guy living in south Japan, said it was dry in spring, but they had the SE Asia monsoon in summer and it rained heavily virtually every day, from June to September, and there was high heat and humidity. As a result in June 2007 I started the deluge watering approach, and also hearing they were hungry feeders while in flush, fed well.

Almost within a week, the first flush in 4 years started icon_thumright
180607 Cycas rev01 .jpg
The flush was complete by mid August
150807 Cycas rev01.jpg
There was no flush in 2008, but it was attacked badly by scale insect, badly damaging the fronds, so I was very glad in 2009 that a flush commenced at the end of June. Here on 7th July 2009
070709 Cycas rev01.jpg
The 2009 flush was complete at the end of August.
270809 Cycas rev01 1857.jpg
That brings us up to the current flush.

In terms of seeing growth, the flushes since planting out have added 2 to 3 inches of trunk height per flush.
2011-06-29 11-07-44 Cycas rev01 trunk years.jpg
The deluge and high feed rate from late spring/early summer seems to produce a flush every 2 years on this Cycas. Maybe if it was in a greenhouse I might get one a year as it would have a longer growing season :wink:
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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by kata » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:47 am

That caudex reminds me of Palm Oil fruit lol

Its a lovely color icon_cheers icon_cheers

Its big Dave. How do you treat it (protection) in winter?
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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Mr List » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:04 am

bloody hell, 17 years :shock:
no wonder you were so invested in this latest flush after the bad winter :)

it really has changed.
i've got one that looks like your very first pic i don't think i will manage to keep my alive for 17 years.
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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by pdid » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:21 am

Thanks for this Dave, some great info for someone like me who has just purchased one icon_thumleft

I think it`s pretty unlikely that i`ll get a flush this year though having just repotted.


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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Simba » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:28 am

Dave Brown wrote:In terms of seeing growth, the flushes since planting out have added 2 to 3 inches of trunk height per flush.
That would seem consistent with the growth that I have seen with mine as well from last year...

My largest potted one has visibly increased in height, although my largest planted out one has just gotten even fatter around the middle....and so have I.... :lol:

I don't think I am going to see any flushes from my group this year, but you never know, flushes do burst into action suddenly.


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Re: Big Cycas rev01 blows it's top

Post by Rabbie » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:38 am

17 years lol, here is my first flush building up.
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