Visit to Brazil
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I've seen conifers on the hills outside of Rio Bonito, RJ, in the more open-space areas.
Portuguese is one of the easiest languages to learn.
Portuguese is one of the easiest languages to learn.
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They grow Pinus all over Brazil in the hills for pulp , they are everywhere, but an ornamental conifer in the hot humid belt is something else.
Portuguese language I learnt very well, I wouldnt say it was easy, the verbs are hellish, but I am sure a lot of languages are much worse to learn. Pronunciation is another matter altogether. I can at times speak perfect portuguese without being understood. Likewise some of the dialects are very difficult, one person I can understand perfectly, the next I can understand absolutely nothing, and yet they are speaking the same language.
To learn portuguese is one thing, the combination of the language and pronunciation at times makes it very difficult.
Portuguese language I learnt very well, I wouldnt say it was easy, the verbs are hellish, but I am sure a lot of languages are much worse to learn. Pronunciation is another matter altogether. I can at times speak perfect portuguese without being understood. Likewise some of the dialects are very difficult, one person I can understand perfectly, the next I can understand absolutely nothing, and yet they are speaking the same language.
To learn portuguese is one thing, the combination of the language and pronunciation at times makes it very difficult.
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Yes, the multitude of dialects and accents in Brazil can make communication tricky. Their spoken language, especially in the rural areas, can differ quite a lot from the official Portuguese you learn from the books or hear on TV.
It was the latter I was referring to as one of the easiest languages to learn.
It was the latter I was referring to as one of the easiest languages to learn.
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Perhaps you should change your business model and put it into reverse: Sell buxus and conifers to the Brazilians!Nigel wrote:Not really, they dont have conifers, in Florianopolis they will pay a fortune for an ugly and half dead conifer struggling to live through a hot humid summer , to me its insane. Buxus at least seems to survive the heatAlexander wrote:
Well palmtrees is a bit differend I would say...
Alexander
We want palm trees, they want conifers.
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LOL Kris, they are all trying to do that already in the cool mountains where this stuff will grow. They grow these god awful Podocarpus ,never seen such ugly plants and they sell like hotcakes for a fortune.Yorkshire Kris wrote:Perhaps you should change your business model and put it into reverse: Sell buxus and conifers to the Brazilians!Nigel wrote:Not really, they dont have conifers, in Florianopolis they will pay a fortune for an ugly and half dead conifer struggling to live through a hot humid summer , to me its insane. Buxus at least seems to survive the heatAlexander wrote:
Well palmtrees is a bit differend I would say...
Alexander
We want palm trees, they want conifers.
They have literally thousands of nurseries across the mountains pumping out millions of plants that go daily in trucks to sao Paulo, Rio and Brasilia. It is HUGE business.
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I was thinking about getting oneNigel wrote:LOL Kris, they are all trying to do that already in the cool mountains where this stuff will grow. They grow these god awful Podocarpus ,never seen such ugly plants and they sell like hotcakes for a fortune.
They have literally thousands of nurseries across the mountains pumping out millions of plants that go daily in trucks to sao Paulo, Rio and Brasilia. It is HUGE business.
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They have Auracaria angustifolia though. Well there are some conifers you can grow in tropical climates. I have seen them in Malaysia and Indonesia.Nigel wrote:Not really, they dont have conifers, in Florianopolis they will pay a fortune for an ugly and half dead conifer struggling to live through a hot humid summer , to me its insane. Buxus at least seems to survive the heatAlexander wrote:
Well palmtrees is a bit differend I would say...
Alexander
We want palm trees, they want conifers.
What I also did notice that the most common Yucca in Brasil is Y. filamentosa.
Well do not forget that Brasilian lanscape architect, Roberto Burle Marx whom used a lot of native plants in his designs.
P.S. Conifers and Buxus are and where also qieut populair in the Low Countries. But here lots of folks have no imagination anyway...
Alexander
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Alexander, yes its interesting about native plants, you have Trithirinax acanthacoma that grows to perfection in the mountains of Brazil and trachycarpus fortunei, that grows very well, but never attains the beauty of the Trithrinax. They are both called `buriti` to the locals. Everybody has a `buriti` in their garden, but what do they buy ? You guessed it they buy Trachycarpus.
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Non-native is always more attractive to people.
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Well in Musyari they call every palm takil. phoenix loureii or T. takil its all the same to the locals there.Nigel wrote:Alexander, yes its interesting about native plants, you have Trithirinax acanthacoma that grows to perfection in the mountains of Brazil and trachycarpus fortunei, that grows very well, but never attains the beauty of the Trithrinax. They are both called `buriti` to the locals. Everybody has a `buriti` in their garden, but what do they buy ? You guessed it they buy Trachycarpus.
So you have it in more parts of the World.
Alexander
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No way! what a waste of a living tree fern! You would think they would replant them somewhere at least.Nigel wrote: Sanatic, no, I wasnt near the amazon, its too hot for me. The atlantic rainforest though is pretty interesting, I wish I could get my hands on some Dicksonia sellowiana , where there is land clearance they burn them because they are prohibitied for export.
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Alexander , palmeira is palm, the different palms all have local names given by indians, Butia ( botanic name taken from indians name) ) , buriti ( trithrinax acanthacoma) , Indaia ( attalea) , Jeriva ( syagrus rom) , but because Trachycarpus resembles trithrinax everybody calls it buriti so it has same name as the local palm.Alexander wrote:Well in Musyari they call every palm takil. phoenix loureii or T. takil its all the same to the locals there.Nigel wrote:Alexander, yes its interesting about native plants, you have Trithirinax acanthacoma that grows to perfection in the mountains of Brazil and trachycarpus fortunei, that grows very well, but never attains the beauty of the Trithrinax. They are both called `buriti` to the locals. Everybody has a `buriti` in their garden, but what do they buy ? You guessed it they buy Trachycarpus.
So you have it in more parts of the World.
Alexander
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Guess its like the way we hear English folk referring to palms when they are looking at cordylines or worse phormiums! Its us pleeks,sorry enthusiasts,who take the time to research and learn the proper names and varieties lol.Nigel wrote:Alexander , palmeira is palm, the different palms all have local names given by indians, Butia ( botanic name taken from indians name) ) , buriti ( trithrinax acanthacoma) , Indaia ( attalea) , Jeriva ( syagrus rom) , but because Trachycarpus resembles trithrinax everybody calls it buriti so it has same name as the local palm.Alexander wrote:Well in Musyari they call every palm takil. phoenix loureii or T. takil its all the same to the locals there.Nigel wrote:Alexander, yes its interesting about native plants, you have Trithirinax acanthacoma that grows to perfection in the mountains of Brazil and trachycarpus fortunei, that grows very well, but never attains the beauty of the Trithrinax. They are both called `buriti` to the locals. Everybody has a `buriti` in their garden, but what do they buy ? You guessed it they buy Trachycarpus.
So you have it in more parts of the World.
Alexander
Nige