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alternative to eucalytus

Post by Mr List » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:38 pm

what is a tree that will grow as big and as fast as a eucalyptus gunni but without the problems of weak roots and branches that fall off?

doesn't need to be evergreen.


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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by callin » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:44 pm

The "suspect" you described is a Paulownia tree. I m not sure about the speed in a climate with not so hot summers.. icon_scratch . For me paulownias are the fastest growers I have ever seen. With good summer watering and planted in full sun they grow fast like nothing else.
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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by charliepridham » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:02 pm

Paulownia are very fast here, much faster than eucalypts, so far no broken bits on my 30' tree so good shout I would say, needs lots of sun to flower well
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Post by jungle jas » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:36 pm

I have an Acacia which is fast growing, but I don't know if it will grow in Leeds. Eriobotrya Japonica don't hang about either. icon_thumright
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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by otorongo » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:49 pm

I would go for something evergreen. Anything evergreen is always better than anything that is a zombie for half of the year.


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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by Blairs » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:34 pm

Agree with all the above and would have said the sam, though I personally find Acacia not that fast growing outside. I find Eriobotrya Japonica the fastest growing.

If you want cheap but fast growing then natives like Rowan, Birch and Apple all shoot up but are obvs not evergreen.


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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by Conifers » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:48 pm

All trees drop dead branches :wink:


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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by Mr List » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:21 pm

I though gums had a bad rep for dropping random branches in a dangerous way?


might just be easier to stick with eucalyptus gunni since they are only £5

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they are all alive atm but the person moved so may now be chopped down etc..


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Re: alternative to eucalyptus

Post by jungle jas » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:27 pm

Mr L I don't recommend Eucalyptus in windy sites as branches snap at the drop of a hat, Ok in a big garden with nothing around them to damage.
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Re: alternative to eucalyptus

Post by jungle jas » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:34 pm

Blairs, the Acacia I am growing is Baileyana purpurea It grew 4 foot last year. icon_thumright
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Post by doncasterpalmguy123 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:49 pm

Only thing with pauwlonia is that it is deciduous with it being from temperate china. What about holm oak, leaves are evergreen and very similar to eucalyptus however they're slower growing.
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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by Nigel Fear » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:18 pm

Acacia Dealbata is certainly quick, I have two about as tall a house, and trunks about 40''plus in circumference,grown from knee-high and pencil thin in 8-10 years, but these can also be known to shed large branches occasionally.
I also have a smaller one, that blew over this year.
Shallow rooted too, so keep away from anything structural, or lawns etc.


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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by greendragon » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:07 am

Weeping Willows grow at an insane speed.

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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by Dave Brown » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:57 am

Mr List wrote:I thought gums had a bad rep for dropping random branches in a dangerous way?
A bit like all palms should be avoided or you risk having Coconuts fall on your head. :lol:

Eucs can be managed to stop them getting too big. So let grow to around 15/20ft then coppice. from then on cut out a stem or two every other year.

Holm Oak has the densest shade and nothing will grow under it, so for the average size garden, after 50 years that is all you will have.
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Re: alternative to eucalytus

Post by sanatic1234 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:34 am

charliepridham wrote:Paulownia are very fast here, much faster than eucalypts, so far no broken bits on my 30' tree so good shout I would say, needs lots of sun to flower well
With the battering you guys are getting down there i would say that is a massive achievement. Stay safe charlie, it looks nasty from what i am seeing.
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