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alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:38 pm
by Mr List
what is a tree that will grow as big and as fast as a eucalyptus gunni but without the problems of weak roots and branches that fall off?

doesn't need to be evergreen.

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:44 pm
by callin
The "suspect" you described is a Paulownia tree. I m not sure about the speed in a climate with not so hot summers.. icon_scratch . For me paulownias are the fastest growers I have ever seen. With good summer watering and planted in full sun they grow fast like nothing else.
off topic ... :roll: How are your tamarillos? any update please Mr. List?

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:02 pm
by charliepridham
Paulownia are very fast here, much faster than eucalypts, so far no broken bits on my 30' tree so good shout I would say, needs lots of sun to flower well

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:36 pm
by jungle jas
I have an Acacia which is fast growing, but I don't know if it will grow in Leeds. Eriobotrya Japonica don't hang about either. icon_thumright

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:49 pm
by otorongo
I would go for something evergreen. Anything evergreen is always better than anything that is a zombie for half of the year.

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:34 pm
by Blairs
Agree with all the above and would have said the sam, though I personally find Acacia not that fast growing outside. I find Eriobotrya Japonica the fastest growing.

If you want cheap but fast growing then natives like Rowan, Birch and Apple all shoot up but are obvs not evergreen.

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:48 pm
by Conifers
All trees drop dead branches :wink:

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:21 pm
by Mr List
I though gums had a bad rep for dropping random branches in a dangerous way?


might just be easier to stick with eucalyptus gunni since they are only £5

ps

I gave all the hardy tree tomatoes away because I didn't like them that much.

they are all alive atm but the person moved so may now be chopped down etc..

Re: alternative to eucalyptus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:27 pm
by jungle jas
Mr L I don't recommend Eucalyptus in windy sites as branches snap at the drop of a hat, Ok in a big garden with nothing around them to damage.

Re: alternative to eucalyptus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:34 pm
by jungle jas
Blairs, the Acacia I am growing is Baileyana purpurea It grew 4 foot last year. icon_thumright

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:49 pm
by doncasterpalmguy123
Only thing with pauwlonia is that it is deciduous with it being from temperate china. What about holm oak, leaves are evergreen and very similar to eucalyptus however they're slower growing.

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:18 pm
by Nigel Fear
Acacia Dealbata is certainly quick, I have two about as tall a house, and trunks about 40''plus in circumference,grown from knee-high and pencil thin in 8-10 years, but these can also be known to shed large branches occasionally.
I also have a smaller one, that blew over this year.
Shallow rooted too, so keep away from anything structural, or lawns etc.

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:07 am
by greendragon
Weeping Willows grow at an insane speed.

Salix X Sepulcralis Chrysocoma

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:57 am
by Dave Brown
Mr List wrote:I thought gums had a bad rep for dropping random branches in a dangerous way?
A bit like all palms should be avoided or you risk having Coconuts fall on your head. :lol:

Eucs can be managed to stop them getting too big. So let grow to around 15/20ft then coppice. from then on cut out a stem or two every other year.

Holm Oak has the densest shade and nothing will grow under it, so for the average size garden, after 50 years that is all you will have.

Re: alternative to eucalytus

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:34 am
by sanatic1234
charliepridham wrote:Paulownia are very fast here, much faster than eucalypts, so far no broken bits on my 30' tree so good shout I would say, needs lots of sun to flower well
With the battering you guys are getting down there i would say that is a massive achievement. Stay safe charlie, it looks nasty from what i am seeing.