Nathan wrote:Here they are in their former glory...
Thanks!
Wonder how much hardiness such mature trunk adds to the plant? -12*c as a rough guess?
But prolonged 2 week freeze -5*c ?
Nathan wrote:Here they are in their former glory...
Well it depends on the climate. Mature Phoenix canarienis were reputed to have survived as low as -20C in Italy in 1985 with a 2ft cover of snow. They were completely defoliated but because of the short duration, possible insulation by the snow & quick warm up, plus the drier climate, they recovered...cordyman wrote:Nathan wrote:Here they are in their former glory...
Thanks!
Wonder how much hardiness such mature trunk adds to the plant? -12*c as a rough guess?
But prolonged 2 week freeze -5*c ?
A mature Phoenix canariensis_CIDP near me got -9C/-10C in Dec 2010. It is STILL recovering 3 years later. It's lucky we got a very good summer last year, otherwise it may have been dead or nearly by now I think. They can survive quite low temps but in a cool climate recovery can be slow I think.Nathan wrote:Well it depends on the climate. Mature Phoenix canarienis were reputed to have survived as low as -20C in Italy in 1985 with a 2ft cover of snow. They were completely defoliated but because of the short duration, possible insulation by the snow & quick warm up, plus the drier climate, they recovered...cordyman wrote:Nathan wrote:Here they are in their former glory...
Thanks!
Wonder how much hardiness such mature trunk adds to the plant? -12*c as a rough guess?
But prolonged 2 week freeze -5*c ?
In wet climates such as Ireland they will be killed at much higher temperatures as cold + wet are a no no for most palms. The mature Phoenix on Tresco were defoliated by the -7C they saw in 1987, but obviously recovered.
I'd say in the UK the limit even for a mature Phoenix canariensis is around -8C.
Interesting to know about the others at Belgrove!Posted by aubreyfennell, at 2014-02-17 00:03:01, said:
To All Palm Lovers,
Unfortunatly the remaining Phoenix in Fota was killed by the 2010 freeze. It was one of a pair.
The other had died in about 1998. Young trees planted at the Bamboo Park, Glengarrif in West Cork in about 2000 were also killed and just one or two had survived when I last visited in 2011. Trachycarpus takil and fortunei came through fine and if my memory is correct one or two Chamaerops humilis also survived. The imported mature Jubaea chilensis at Kells Bay gardens in Co.Kerry also survived the 'Big Freeze'
The good news is that an equally large mature Phoenix canariensis in the lost gardens at Belgrove, Cobh, which is less than 5kms from Fota and crucially 1c milder came through fine. Check it out on the Tree Council of Ireland website and click on heritage tree database.
Aubrey
What a good idea.Rob S wrote:I've just had the most brilliant and unique idea! Plant some new ones!