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Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:33 pm
by jungle jas
Mick C wrote:No, I was responding to the original question about a hardy blue fern. Lophosoria is a very different fern altogether, sorry if I've caused confusion.
Mick do you have a picture. icon_thumright

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:15 am
by Mick C
Unfortunately I don't Jas and at the moment there is not much above ground to photograph :(

I noticed a photo posted recently on GOTE of a nice healthy one in Cork.

lophosoria

Mine was only planted last year and nearly all of the foliage has died off. Quite a lot actually went brown before winter; I didn't water it for three weeks after a late Summer holiday & subsequent illness. Up to then I'd watered it loads and it didn't seem to like the sudden lack of care, although the ground had not really dried out much.

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:05 pm
by jungle jas
Mick C wrote:No, I was responding to the original question about a hardy blue fern. Lophosoria is a very different fern altogether, sorry if I've caused confusion.
Nice fern, but a bit pricey. In Mulu £65.00. Gulp. icon_thumright

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:46 pm
by jungle jas
jungle jas wrote:Hi to you both, thought I would give you an update on the blue fern. Persistence pay off. Just found one at shady plants so did a dodgy deal and I have one winging its way from Ireland as I type. The plant is called Phlebodium Pseudoaureum Virginia Blue. The reason you both know it by two different names is that it has had a name change recently. Thanks. icon_thumright
Having got my hands on one of these, I have it in a pot at present, Should I plant it in wet shade or dry? Information on this is very vague.

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:00 am
by caminthegarden
Sorry Jas , I am still sure these are two completely different plants , one hardy , other much more delicate , I am going to try and post pics of both for your scrutiny , but I am a bit rusty on shrinking photos to send , here goes ! the one with my cats tail is the more indoor one with the ridiculously long name , narrower leaves , and comes out of rhizomes , the other makes a root ball leathery leaves , hardy ..in london anyway. What do you guys think . I am cautiously confident .....

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:52 pm
by jungle jas
Hmmmmmmm, if the base is different were the fronds come out of the ground then I bow to your superior knowledge!!! Do you grow it in wet or dry conditions. Thanks. icon_thumright

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:18 pm
by caminthegarden
Well its a bit miffy , don't over water , nice moist soil , ericacous best . I over wintered it in cold frame , defo is a creeping rhizome , wouldn't have it outside yet , and shade is what it likes . I got it from Wyvale ,house plenty bit years ago , if its happy the blue is fantastic , luminous, but don't beat yourself up if it dies , as I said they are miffy !!

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:55 pm
by jungle jas
caminthegarden wrote:Well its a bit miffy , don't over water , nice moist soil , ericacous best . I over wintered it in cold frame , defo is a creeping rhizome , wouldn't have it outside yet , and shade is what it likes . I got it from Wyvale ,house plenty bit years ago , if its happy the blue is fantastic , luminous, but don't beat yourself up if it dies , as I said they are miffy !!
Thanks for the information. Thats all I need, another miffy plant :roll: :lol: icon_thumright

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:03 pm
by jungle jas
Went to RHS Show at Tatten Park this weekend weather was hot and dry so it was a good day out with plenty to see and do. The show was smaller than the last time I went but that is a sign of the times i'm afraid! There were a couple of fern specialists there one of which had a ruck of blue ferns. On closer inspection It was the sort that grew from rhizomes the same as the one I have. They were being sold as indoor ferns much to my disgust as mine was sold to me as hardy! Nurserymen pooffff, bigger liars even than politicians of that is possible. :lol: icon_thumright

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:58 am
by caminthegarden
Well I always replace mine from the houseplant section at Wyevales, its too beautiful to be hardy !

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:58 pm
by jungle jas
caminthegarden wrote:Well I always replace mine from the houseplant section at Wyevales, its too beautiful to be hardy !
Looks like a trip to Wyevales then. I love your garden, so much colour and texture, as beautiful a garden as I have seen in many a year. You should open it in the NGS scheme. What is the small star shaped red flower taken on the 13th June 2010. Thanks Jas.

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:40 pm
by caminthegarden
Well thank you ! can't seem to find my pics on here but on flicker , had a look , maybe you mean the Tigridia , three petals , tres exotique , flower lasts one day , from little bulbs , well worth putting in a pot yellow and bright pink ones too. I did the NGS for two years but found it a tad stressful..and people asked rather boring questions about the same plants !

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:47 pm
by jungle jas
caminthegarden wrote:Well thank you ! can't seem to find my pics on here but on flicker , had a look , maybe you mean the Tigridia , three petals , tres exotique , flower lasts one day , from little bulbs , well worth putting in a pot yellow and bright pink ones too. I did the NGS for two years but found it a tad stressful..and people asked rather boring questions about the same plants !
Thanks for the info. icon_thumright

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:53 pm
by griphuz
These are two different plants, that as a matter of fact have nothing to do with eachother!

The first is Phlebodium pseudoaureum, possibly var. 'Virginia Blue'. This previously used to be Polypodium areolatum.
http://plantlust.com/plants/phlebodium-pseudoaureum/

The second plant is Dryopteris sieboldii (Siebold's woodfern).
http://plantlust.com/plants/dryopteris-sieboldii/

Kind regards,
Remko.

Re: Blue Fern.

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:38 pm
by caminthegarden
Thank you Remko , after two years someone agrees with me !