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Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:33 pm
by jungle jas
Mick C wrote:No, I was responding to the original question about a hardy blue fern. Lophosoria is a very different fern altogether, sorry if I've caused confusion.
Mick do you have a picture.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:15 am
by Mick C
Unfortunately I don't Jas and at the moment there is not much above ground to photograph
I noticed a photo posted recently on GOTE of a nice healthy one in Cork.
lophosoria
Mine was only planted last year and nearly all of the foliage has died off. Quite a lot actually went brown before winter; I didn't water it for three weeks after a late Summer holiday & subsequent illness. Up to then I'd watered it loads and it didn't seem to like the sudden lack of care, although the ground had not really dried out much.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:05 pm
by jungle jas
Mick C wrote:No, I was responding to the original question about a hardy blue fern. Lophosoria is a very different fern altogether, sorry if I've caused confusion.
Nice fern, but a bit pricey. In Mulu £65.00. Gulp.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:46 pm
by jungle jas
jungle jas wrote:Hi to you both, thought I would give you an update on the blue fern. Persistence pay off. Just found one at shady plants so did a dodgy deal and I have one winging its way from Ireland as I type. The plant is called Phlebodium Pseudoaureum Virginia Blue. The reason you both know it by two different names is that it has had a name change recently. Thanks.
Having got my hands on one of these, I have it in a pot at present, Should I plant it in wet shade or dry? Information on this is very vague.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:00 am
by caminthegarden
Sorry Jas , I am still sure these are two completely different plants , one hardy , other much more delicate , I am going to try and post pics of both for your scrutiny , but I am a bit rusty on shrinking photos to send , here goes ! the one with my cats tail is the more indoor one with the ridiculously long name , narrower leaves , and comes out of rhizomes , the other makes a root ball leathery leaves , hardy ..in london anyway. What do you guys think . I am cautiously confident .....
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:52 pm
by jungle jas
Hmmmmmmm, if the base is different were the fronds come out of the ground then I bow to your superior knowledge!!! Do you grow it in wet or dry conditions. Thanks.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:18 pm
by caminthegarden
Well its a bit miffy , don't over water , nice moist soil , ericacous best . I over wintered it in cold frame , defo is a creeping rhizome , wouldn't have it outside yet , and shade is what it likes . I got it from Wyvale ,house plenty bit years ago , if its happy the blue is fantastic , luminous, but don't beat yourself up if it dies , as I said they are miffy !!
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:55 pm
by jungle jas
caminthegarden wrote:Well its a bit miffy , don't over water , nice moist soil , ericacous best . I over wintered it in cold frame , defo is a creeping rhizome , wouldn't have it outside yet , and shade is what it likes . I got it from Wyvale ,house plenty bit years ago , if its happy the blue is fantastic , luminous, but don't beat yourself up if it dies , as I said they are miffy !!
Thanks for the information. Thats all I need, another miffy plant
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:03 pm
by jungle jas
Went to RHS Show at Tatten Park this weekend weather was hot and dry so it was a good day out with plenty to see and do. The show was smaller than the last time I went but that is a sign of the times i'm afraid! There were a couple of fern specialists there one of which had a ruck of blue ferns. On closer inspection It was the sort that grew from rhizomes the same as the one I have. They were being sold as indoor ferns much to my disgust as mine was sold to me as hardy! Nurserymen pooffff, bigger liars even than politicians of that is possible.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:58 am
by caminthegarden
Well I always replace mine from the houseplant section at Wyevales, its too beautiful to be hardy !
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:58 pm
by jungle jas
caminthegarden wrote:Well I always replace mine from the houseplant section at Wyevales, its too beautiful to be hardy !
Looks like a trip to Wyevales then. I love your garden, so much colour and texture, as beautiful a garden as I have seen in many a year. You should open it in the NGS scheme. What is the small star shaped red flower taken on the 13th June 2010. Thanks Jas.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:40 pm
by caminthegarden
Well thank you ! can't seem to find my pics on here but on flicker , had a look , maybe you mean the Tigridia , three petals , tres exotique , flower lasts one day , from little bulbs , well worth putting in a pot yellow and bright pink ones too. I did the NGS for two years but found it a tad stressful..and people asked rather boring questions about the same plants !
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:47 pm
by jungle jas
caminthegarden wrote:Well thank you ! can't seem to find my pics on here but on flicker , had a look , maybe you mean the Tigridia , three petals , tres exotique , flower lasts one day , from little bulbs , well worth putting in a pot yellow and bright pink ones too. I did the NGS for two years but found it a tad stressful..and people asked rather boring questions about the same plants !
Thanks for the info.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:53 pm
by griphuz
These are two different plants, that as a matter of fact have nothing to do with eachother!
The first is Phlebodium pseudoaureum, possibly var. 'Virginia Blue'. This previously used to be Polypodium areolatum.
http://plantlust.com/plants/phlebodium-pseudoaureum/
The second plant is Dryopteris sieboldii (Siebold's woodfern).
http://plantlust.com/plants/dryopteris-sieboldii/
Kind regards,
Remko.
Re: Blue Fern.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:38 pm
by caminthegarden
Thank you Remko , after two years someone agrees with me !