Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

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Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by chrissmith44x » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:43 pm

Hello all,

I want to create an Oregon style corner within my garden.

I have a very limited budget.

I am thinking pine trees with ferns and moss.

My question to you would be.

As im on a budget what would be the best ferns to purchase, ideally ever green and winter hardy, but i cant affford 20+ plants, so want ferns that spread themselves within a season or two.. - possible??

Can I take cuttings of ferns?

I presume digging one up from the wild (theres a large batch of about 20 square meters about 10 miles away from me) is frowned upon due to balancing ecosystems and morals etc

ive tried growing from spores - id like to try again - i had NO luck - what are easiest and fastest to grow yourself that do ok outside when large enough?

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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by conrad » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:54 pm

One Fern that will spread is Matteuccia struthiopteris, the shuttlecock fern. It will want very moist soil though. Another is Onoclea sensibilis, the Sensitive fern which will do better in a slightly drier position the the Matteuccia. Some people find that it can be a bit invasive. Neither are evergreen though. Dryopteris erythrosora is evergreen, but then it won't spread about, perhaps you could use a mix of both?
Some such as Woodwardia (an evergreen) produce small plants at the end of the fronds which root into the soil creating a new plant, though some species are more hardy than others. I have lost Woodwardia radicans here.

You can't take cuttings of Ferns I'm afraid.

Digging up ferns from the wild is indeed frowned upon, as well as being illegal.


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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Tom2006 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:43 pm

I would recommend the shuttlecock fern. Impressive fern although not evergreen in most climates.
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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Arlon Tishmarsh » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:25 pm

The ange do a nice little variety of hardy ferns starting at around £3.50 i think . I bought quite a few last year and they've done quite well . Have you thought of a couple of evergreen Fatsia as well just for some additional interest. They have those too at around the same price icon_thumleft


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Post by gdudey » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:29 am

I'm looking to get some ferns for my garden this season too. I've already purchased a Dicksonia, next on the list are the shuttlecock ferns and maybe a Dryopteris of some kind.

This site was linked earlier on another thread: https://www.bowdenhostas.com Seems the place to go for ferns and hostas


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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Tom2006 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:32 am

I got some shuttlecock ferns last year (only small) and they didn't do a great deal. They have died back and I'm hoping they will really put on a show this year.
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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Mr List » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:02 am

do the runners on shuttlecock ferns look like black ,well, runners, with a green blob on the end?

i think mine have put out quite a lot of runners.
how far do the go and when do they turn into new plants?


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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Tom2006 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:11 am

I'm not sure. Can't see any in my garden but I put down 3-4" of mulch. That said I think the runners are in the soil?
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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Conifers » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:42 am

Polystichum munitum would be best. That is the most abundant fern in the forests of western Oregon. Fully hardy in Britain, evergreen, and very attractive, too.

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Post by Mr List » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:16 am

Tom2006 wrote:I'm not sure. Can't see any in my garden but I put down 3-4" of mulch. That said I think the runners are in the soil?
well i read stolons for that fern and when i looked it up stolons are above ground.

all 3 of mine have loads of black 'lines' growing radially out from them and most of them look to have a little green shape on the end.


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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by billdango » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:30 pm

I,m sorry for my ignorance but what is an Oregon corner?

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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Conifers » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:18 pm

billdango wrote:I,m sorry for my ignorance but what is an Oregon corner?

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A corner of a garden with vegetation typical of Oregon, I'd assume :lol:

Needs some typical Oregon trees like Douglas-fir, Ponderosa Pine, Grand Fir, Brewer's Spruce, Lawson's Cypress, etc.


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Post by Tom2006 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:50 am

Mr List wrote:
Tom2006 wrote:I'm not sure. Can't see any in my garden but I put down 3-4" of mulch. That said I think the runners are in the soil?
well i read stolons for that fern and when i looked it up stolons are above ground.

all 3 of mine have loads of black 'lines' growing radially out from them and most of them look to have a little green shape on the end.
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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by Mr List » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:43 am

just looking today and it seems my first offshoot of my shuttlecock ferns had appeared.

it has come from under ground about 8 inches from the main one.


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Re: Which fern for my Oregon styled garden corner!?

Post by billdango » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:49 pm

Conifers wrote:
billdango wrote:I,m sorry for my ignorance but what is an Oregon corner?

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A corner of a garden with vegetation typical of Oregon, I'd assume :lol:

Needs some typical Oregon trees like Douglas-fir, Ponderosa Pine, Grand Fir, Brewer's Spruce, Lawson's Cypress, etc.
Thanks for clearing that up?

Sounds good though,Pines,grass and ferns.

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