palm hardiness

[Mr List]

thinking i didnt like palms, i must have been in some form of denial.

after getting my Trachycarpus i really want a few more palms.
i'm looking for some that will pretty much be fine left to nature where i am
(west yorkshire)
tying and fleecing only in the absolute worst weather (eg not a normal winter)
so info from people growing these in as northerly positions please:

the waggy with 25cm trunk
http://www.palmcentre.co.uk/ProductDeta ... ductID=390
with it being small would it need extra help in winter?

http://www.palmcentre.co.uk/ProductDeta ... ductID=387
this would end up in a half sun position in summer.
suitable without protection?

the largest one with 30cm trunk
http://www.palmcentre.co.uk/ProductDeta ... ductID=386
this would be a specimen in the middle of a large-ish gravel patch so very exposed to cold i think but it is a full sun position.
what sort of hardy temps does this have?

i quite fancy this but think it is too tender for here.
anyone prove me wrong?
http://www.palmcentre.co.uk/ProductDeta ... ductID=416

[grub]

Can't help out on the Chammies as none of them have really got through a winter here , Waggy will be fine though.

[redsquirrel]

the only one id worry about here would be the volcano. my microspadix gets burned in winter but so far has always picked up from where it left off although last year looked a bit scruffy

[Simba]

If you are looking for a good waggie, then look no further than George...
http://www.thepalmhouse.co.uk/

[Ste]

ive got 4 chammys in pots out in the garden and they look absolutley perfect, no different to how they looked in the middle of summer. They had snow sat on the leaves for over a week and gone through several weeks of minus 6 or more and its not effected them at all. Its the chamaerops humilis I have. To me these seem as hardy as the trachys as nothing has changed over the winter yet all my other palms have gone a bit brown.

[Mr List]

seems they might all be worth a go at least once .
cheers for the recommendation simba, some good prices on there .
guessing they are a trusted supplier?

@RedS
how about a picture?

[redsquirrel]

will sort one for you.i cant get to it easily right now,will see what time i have after work

[Mr List]

cheers.

[Yorkshire Kris]

Where in Leeds do you live Mr List?

The reason I ask is that it is much colder in places like Yeadon and Pudsey (they had a covering of snow before sunrise this morning!) compared to the city centre and Headingley etc.

I will see similar temps to the centre of Leeds (I'm just south a Wakefield) I have 3 chammys in pots and have done fine the last two winters no damage really only a few tatty leaves. There 3 have been outside all the time with no protection at all apart from about a week when I put fleece on them very loosely this winter.
They are South/East facing against the house wall.

I plan to plant out my ceriferas, vulcano, waggies, trachies etc etc when I move house (still in Wakefield area)

[Mr List]

i live very close to the city centre, a 20min walk or a 10min bus drive close.

i am higher up from the city centre i look down at it from my bedroom window.
i think being higher up a hill make my position more exposed.

trouble is the front garden, which is in total fun sun,less exposed,more built up is the small garden.

i am working on the back garden which gets plenty of sun in summer but in winter gets very little due to the suns angle
(they knew what they were doing when the positioned this house)
and size of the house.

[Ste]

Heres some pics of my chammys ive just taken 10 minutes ago. They have been out all winter with no protection at all, even had snow sat on them for over a week because i couldnt be arsed to go out and shake it off. They look like they are doing fine to me.

[jezza]

If you are looking for a good waggie, then look no further than George...
http://www.thepalmhouse.co.uk/

I'd second that. I bought one from george last november, 60cm trunk, £112, and that included 48 hour delivery. I left it outside in it's pot throughout december & took a -19c. i planted it in the ground last week. Pic taken yesterday...

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[Mr List]

that looks pretty sweet.

looking at those ste make me feel i will absolutely try these out this year.

[Ste]

I would rate these chamaerops humilis as hardy as Trachycarpus's, nothing at all seems to bother them - well none of mine anyway. No amount of rain, snow, weeks of minus temperatures, 70mph winds we had, nothing has effected them, not even as much as 1 brown leaf, infact new leaves have been opening up over winter. A real hardy in my opinion.

[dino]

Nice pic as well Jezza. Love the shaft of light.