Butia Odorata Strictior

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Butia Odorata Strictior

Post by jungle jas » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:26 pm

Hi folks,
Will some kind soul please explain the difference between Butia Odorata and Odorata strictior? Regards Jas.
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Re: Butia Odorata Strictior

Post by Las Palmas Norte » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:47 am

I'm only familiar with Butia capitata 'Strictor' where the fronds are nearly straight and not recurved like normal B. capitata.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/390840/

Perhaps that's also the case with the species you are inquiring about. I've never heard of B. odorata having the 'Strictor' trait.

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Re: Butia Odorata Strictior

Post by jungle jas » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:23 am

[quote="Las Palmas Norte"]I'm only familiar with Butia capitata 'Strictor' where the fronds are nearly straight and not recurved like normal B. capitata.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/390840/

Perhaps that's also the case with the species you are inquiring about. I've never heard of B. odorata having the 'Strictor' trait.

Cheers, Barrie.[/quote

Thanks Barrie, that explains it then as I beleave the name has been changed from Capitata to odorata. icon_salut
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Re: Butia Odorata Strictior

Post by Adrian » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:30 pm

What was capitata is now renamed odorata so yes you will find odorata strictior.

The strictior is as Barrie decribed.
I had a couple, one I gave to (or swaped with) Nigel many moons ago and another I lost last winter.
Very nice and certainly different to the ordinary odorata (was named capitata) but I found them to be rather brittle in the frond and lost many frond tips in the wind.
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Re: Butia Odorata Strictior

Post by Las Palmas Norte » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:34 am

Interesting regarding the name change. It has not changed here in North America. What prompted the change and was there ever (or still) any Butia capitata? How did this come about and who or what entity authorized this name change? icon_scratch

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Re: Butia Odorata Strictior

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:32 pm

Having typed all this out on the EPS forum, I thought I would put it here too for those interested.
This is a list of all current species with notes to show what they were classified as previously.

Butia archeri unchanged
Butia campicola new species
Butia capitata ( formerly capitata )from central Brasil
Butia catarinensis ( formerly butia capitata var odorata)
Butia eriospatha unchanged
Butia exospadix new species
Butia lallemantii new species formerly paraguayensis
Butia lepidotispatha formerly paraguayensis
butia leptospatha formerly paraguayensis
Butia marmorii new species
Butia matogrossensis formerly paraguayensis
Butia microspadix unchanged
Butia odorata ( formerly capitata) most common form in cultivation from south tip Brasil and Uruguay
Butia paraguayensis trunking palms through south central Brasil,Paraguay, Uruguay and Argentina
Butia pubispatha new species separated from microspadix
Butia purpurescens unchanged
Butia witeckii new species
Butia yatay unchanged

There is probably a few more species to be named, but at the moment this is it ( I think ! ) The populations of trunking Butia paraguayensis probably also need to be reviewed because the populations show tremendous variation,but being spread over 4 countries and a vast area this sems unlikely.

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Re: Butia Odorata Strictior

Post by redsquirrel » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:33 pm

Ade,if you want a few tiddlers for the green house ive got too many here, green and blue varieties,doubles and triples aswell.
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