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Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:10 pm
by samj
I got my first Eriobotrya japonica today and found that it was grafted. Is this normal and OK?

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:49 pm
by Blairs
Yes, it is to speed up fruiting. it is about 2-3 times faster to fruit from a graft than from root grown stock.

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:38 am
by samj
Thanks, that makes sense.. I guess thats why fruit trees are usually grafted

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:06 am
by Dave Brown
It may also be to control size or vigour :wink:

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:56 pm
by Yorkshire Kris
What plant do they use for the rootstocks?

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:38 pm
by Blairs
Yorkshire Kris wrote:What plant do they use for the rootstocks?
Depends - could be apple, pear, quince or other Loquat.

Loquat cuttings do not root well, hence they use root stock.

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:03 pm
by cordyman
It may also give the desirable long trunk with bushy head that many desire, i've seen many on here with loqaut where naturally its simply a bush! :lol:

See my pruning thread here too, they take to shaping very well!

http://www.hardytropicals.co.uk/forum/v ... =1&t=19622

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:03 pm
by samj
Dave Brown wrote:It may also be to control size or vigour
cordyman wrote:It may also give the desirable long trunk with bushy head that many desire
Oh dear.. I was hoping it would grow to be big and messy (I like things rustic :D ).

Thanks for your help though..

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:36 pm
by leunerj
Blairs wrote:
Yorkshire Kris wrote:What plant do they use for the rootstocks?
Depends - could be apple, pear, quince or other Loquat.

Loquat cuttings do not root well, hence they use root stock.
Is it possible to graft evergreens onto deciduous rootstock?

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:25 pm
by charliepridham
The rootstock and what you graft onto it have to be related, not sure how far you can push the boundaries but generally the closer the connection the easier the graft.

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:14 pm
by cordyman
samj wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:It may also be to control size or vigour
cordyman wrote:It may also give the desirable long trunk with bushy head that many desire
Oh dear.. I was hoping it would grow to be big and messy (I like things rustic :D ).

Thanks for your help though..

left to their own devices apparently loquats can get 20 foot etc, wonder what the graft size would be?

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:33 pm
by Nigel Fear
cordyman wrote:
samj wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:It may also be to control size or vigour
cordyman wrote:It may also give the desirable long trunk with bushy head that many desire
Oh dear.. I was hoping it would grow to be big and messy (I like things rustic :D ).

Thanks for your help though..

left to their own devices apparently loquats can get 20 foot etc, wonder what the graft size would be?
I should imagine a fair bit more than that, I have one that's around 15ft. now, planted out from around 6ft. 6 years ago.

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:38 pm
by Blairs
leunerj wrote:
Blairs wrote:
Yorkshire Kris wrote:What plant do they use for the rootstocks?
Depends - could be apple, pear, quince or other Loquat.

Loquat cuttings do not root well, hence they use root stock.
Is it possible to graft evergreens onto deciduous rootstock?
Roots do not know if the plant is evergreen or not, and, Loquat is in the Rosaceae family together with apples and pears etc, so as long as the root stock is related then the graft should take.

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:22 pm
by samj
I bought it for the foliage and hadn't considered the fruits .. Are the fruits good enough to eat when grown in the uk?

Re: Eriobotrya japonica

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:39 pm
by jungle jas
Mine was doing well until the wind ripped all the branches off at the trunk from one side. I think I may have to chop the head of the tree off to get it to look balanced. Has anyone tried this or has any other Ideas. icon_thumright