Hardy Tropicals UK

Kata, there's no way Hurricane Irene will hit the UK in Novemeber it has already petered out

However, the forecasts are for a blustery Autumn, which may be no bad thing if we get a normal winter!

Sunday Post predictions Mark

There wll be a few more as we get mid-autumn....

Not to be a party pooper, but Piers Corbyn is a clown

He always comes out with the most unrealistic theories, many of which cannot be substantiated. What he has done though, is only emerged since 2009 - before than he was virtually none existent. The reason - well he didn't have cold winters to back up his 'theory'

Seriously it's best sticking to people who acknowledge that forecasting ahead even 2 weeks is a risky business.

Piers is the KING of weather spin (to sell whatever media he is writing in). He is rarely right.

An interesting development in the weather patterns.. something we havent seen for a few years, powerful jet driven southwesterlies look like becoming a dominant weather pattern.

So the tropical storm developments are giving us a small chance of reprieve from cold winters.. that is if the jet can maintain its flow over the UK, and into Europe.

If it's a temporary thing then it's back to square one

what it does mean for the near future is lots of wet, warm, muggy (maybe thundery) type weather.

stephenprudence wrote:An interesting development in the weather patterns.. something we havent seen for a few years, powerful jet driven southwesterlies look like becoming a dominant weather pattern.

So the tropical storm developments are giving us a small chance of reprieve from cold winters.. that is if the jet can maintain its flow over the UK, and into Europe.

If it's a temporary thing then it's back to square one

what it does mean for the near future is lots of wet, warm, muggy (maybe thundery) type weather.

Excellent stuff!

Bartlett High and blow torch scenarios in winter rock

Adam D wrote:

stephenprudence wrote:An interesting development in the weather patterns.. something we havent seen for a few years, powerful jet driven southwesterlies look like becoming a dominant weather pattern.

So the tropical storm developments are giving us a small chance of reprieve from cold winters.. that is if the jet can maintain its flow over the UK, and into Europe.

If it's a temporary thing then it's back to square one

what it does mean for the near future is lots of wet, warm, muggy (maybe thundery) type weather.

Excellent stuff!

Bartlett High and blow torch scenarios in winter rock

It's a good job you're saying that on a exotic plants forum - if you said the 'B' word on a weather forum you'd be drawn and quartered.

*cough* Bartlett *cough*

^^^^

Some weather forums are a bit more objective with regards to the whether it is acceptable to talk about Bartlett Highs than others Stephen (and I think we both know of one where it is see as blasphemy )

So what is a Bartlett High??

I'm lost with this terminology now....

Bartlett High (European High) is the term used to describe a High Pressure cell that sets up with it's centre over western Europe (France/Spain) occassionally.. the High Pressure often pumps up southerly winds over the UK, and is mostly occurrent in Winter when it delivers mild (even warm) and wet days.. it often brings about the foehn effect too.

The name Bartlett comes from a forecaster; Paul Bartlett, who was lucky/unlucky enough to have gained the title from weather forum posters after forecasting in a very mild year... from then on, because of the frequency he was mentioning this high pressure cell, it was named after him.

We want a 'Bartlett High' as exotic gardeners, but many weather forum enthusiasts on certain forums prefer cold and snow, and so on those forums, 'Bartlett' has become a swearword.

Thanks for the explaination Stephen

Sod the rain dance I'm doing the Bartlett boogie....bring it on.

I'm all for that! Plus it's often a difficult thing to get rid of, so often months can be mild and wet.

1988 is a great example of a stationary Bartlett.