They do get hardier with age, but only to a certain degree. In the UK -8C seems the limit for them, even bigger sized ones. The mature ones on Tresco turned brown after -7C in 1987, but were not killed...Addictedtopalms26 wrote:They must get hardier as they get older, because that would make sense to why the ones in London and portsmouth survive?
7 foot Phoenix canariensis_CIDP - unprotected in SE London?
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Re: 7 foot Phoenix canariensis (Phoenix canariensis_CIDP) - unprotected in SE Lo
I've previously put smallish ones through -9C without protection, they don't like it . I have had some success with fleecing though hence my trying again, I am a lazy gardener and I don't protect; In theory they all have 2 years at the most
Re: 7 foot Phoenix canariensis (Phoenix canariensis_CIDP) - unprotected in SE Lo
It was only until Winter 09-10 that Hull had some pretty impressively large Phoenix canariensis_CIDP's around the city centre in people's gardens. The largest, which died winter 10-11, was approximately 10-12' tall.
Most wanted list - Any Young Trachycarpus and/or fern.
Re: 7 foot Phoenix canariensis (Phoenix canariensis_CIDP) - unprotected in SE Lo
Well in Locarno the Phoenix canariensis_CIDP had some frostdamage as well. They are at their limits in that area. Only on the Island I saw undamaged specimems. Like a big one on Isola Brisago. And there are good big ones at Lago di Garda at the warmest most sheltered parts north of Salo.
That Lago di Garda has the warmest climate of the North Italian lakes. A kind of miniture Mediterranean. Also the most northerly olivegroves are found in that area.
Alexander
That Lago di Garda has the warmest climate of the North Italian lakes. A kind of miniture Mediterranean. Also the most northerly olivegroves are found in that area.
Alexander
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Nice Phoenix, can you tell me the location of these plants in Hackney as i wouldn't mind a look next time i'm in the area? Thanksotorongo wrote:This is not SE London, but there are 'public' CIDPs in Hackney growing out in the open (i.e. not against walls). Not sure if they get protection in the winter.
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Hackney Town Hall, Mare Street, London E8 1EARob S wrote:Nice Phoenix, can you tell me the location of these plants in Hackney as i wouldn't mind a look next time i'm in the area? Thanks
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=hackney ... 89,,0,1.15
Re: 7 foot Phoenix canariensis (Phoenix canariensis_CIDP) - unprotected in SE Lo
They don't get protection in winter - I was there during that horrible 2010/11 winter and they had nothing keeping them warm.