Trachycarpus sikkim

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Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by joolz68 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:59 am

Hi,i bought this Trachycarpus and i wanted to firstly ask ..is it a sikkim? and also if it is, will it be ok in the greenhouse for winter?
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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by kata » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:44 am

Welcome to the forum Jool,

That looks like one I have,

Its grown well, got new leaves. I was'nt sure what it was as its simply name 'Trachicarpus'. I do have Trachicarpus f which looks totally differnt.

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EDIT: forgot to say mine has been out since I bought it in a mild winter last year.

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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by jezza » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:30 am

No such thing as a Trachycarpus sikkimensis, renamed trachycarpus latisectus icon_thumright

I'm not a massive Trachycarpus guru so to me it looks like regular fortunei but somebody else might know different.


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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by kata » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:47 am

The leaves are totally different Jez,

They have a feel of paper, not like other Trachis at all...certainly not like the fortunei.
I'm not a massive Trachycarpus guru so to me it looks like regular fortunei


Oh yes you are look Jez.

Trachycarpus latisectus (formerly Trachycarpus sikkimensis)

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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by Dave Brown » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:52 am

That isn't a latisectus, and the leaf is wrong. It look like a standard Trachycarpus fortunei (Chusan Palm) to me.

It'll look like this is 30 years.
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Post by GoggleboxUK » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:52 am

I'd agree it's just a statndard Fortunei but I think that in Derbyshire it will probably be 40 years before it looks like Dave's.
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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by Mr List » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:01 am

joolz68 wrote:Hi,i bought this Trachycarpus and i wanted to firstly ask ..is it a sikkim? and also if it is, will it be ok in the greenhouse for winter?
Thanks x
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i have one that looks just like this.

why do the leaves have a palmate clumped up effect instead of a proper fan like my waggies and my big T.F. ?

is it just because they are young?


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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by kata » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:17 am

I don't know ML,

The leaves are totally different to my fortunei, very soft and papery like texture. but the ticket does say Trachicarpus fortunei...nothing else.

Just realised I am the proud owner of three Trachis now. Good job Mark never saw any at Aldi... :lol:

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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by GoggleboxUK » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:54 am

They are a transition between strap leaves and palmate leaves, all palms do it.

I seperate mine sometimes and it seems to encourage them to put out more mature looking growth afterwards. At least it did on my Brahea 'Super Silver's and Trachycarpus Princeps. It didn't help on my R. Hystrix though, they are still pushing out unsplit fronds.
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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by Nigel » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:09 pm

yep its just a plain old fortunei, ask for your money back !
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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by joolz68 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:31 pm

Thanks gang,i thought i had been Mis sold as soon as i started searching winter care for it,the leaves didnt look like google images but its the 1st Trachycarpus ive bought so no experience :cry: Not sure if i can ask for my money back or swap it,theyve shut down their ebay shop but still have a website online so might be worth a moaning email to them.
Will it be ok in my greenhouse this winter?,no idea how old it is or when they can be planted out.
I doubt i will be around in 30yrs to see if it makes that height dave :lol:


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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by joolz68 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:42 pm

Ive just gone to the website and they are still selling Trachycarpus latisectus 'sikkim' so maybe if i email them i might get a nice response :D His fortunei are a lot cheaper for sure :shock:


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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by GoggleboxUK » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:55 pm

If you want to plant it out then you're better off with a Fortunei than a Lati.

Plant in early Spring and water well for the first few months. It will be fine in your greenhouse over winter but if you get temperatures below -7c then I'd be inclined to bring it indoors for the worst spells just to make sure. Mature ones that are planted will take nuch lower but young potted plants are not as hardy as many places claim them to be.

It looks like a 4 year old plant to me, give or take.
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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by joolz68 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:00 pm

GoggleboxUK wrote:If you want to plant it out then you're better off with a Fortunei than a Lati.

Plant in early Spring and water well for the first few months. It will be fine in your greenhouse over winter but if you get temperatures below -7c then I'd be inclined to bring it indoors for the worst spells just to make sure. Mature ones that are planted will take nuch lower but young potted plants are not as hardy as many places claim them to be.

It looks like a 4 year old plant to me, give or take.
Thanks gogglebox :D i didnt think it would be that old icon_thumleft ..26yrs to go dave :lol: il be 70 :ahhh!: x


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Re: Trachycarpus sikkim

Post by Dave Brown » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:47 pm

Mr List wrote:
i have one that looks just like this.

why do the leaves have a palmate clumped up effect instead of a proper fan like my waggies and my big T.F. ?

is it just because they are young?
That is the trait of a young T fortunei, it is that which identifies it as T.f :wink:
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