Eriobotrya japonica Loquat pruning? *results*

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Eriobotrya japonica Loquat pruning? *results*

Post by cordyman »

its putting on loads of new growth,

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and getting too big for my liking...

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The inner branches, where to cut? if I go right up to the trunk like previous cuts, that will raise the height of the head? which I don't want. So should I just prune the top off to reduce the height? or is there some methodology I should be following. icon_scratch icon_scratch icon_scratch :oops:

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Mr List

Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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if you want short plants don't but big trees for the spots you have.
derrick

Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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One in Southampton as big as a house not cut just wild most I see are something like a umbrella like say a small olive tree ask Billabong Captain cave man . Some shapes cordy on small plants
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Half Hardy

Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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Mr List wrote:if you want short plants don't but big trees for the spots you have.
That told you! Now go and sit on the naughty step :)

By that logic,if you don't want plants to die in winter,only plant 100% hardy plants. Sensible but not very interesting. :?

I am just about to buy loquat seed (apparently they have to be very fresh,to get them to germinate).Anybody got a rough idea how long it would take to grow to that size,from seed?
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Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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If it is a seedling being grown for foliage effect you can’t really go wrong.

If it is a grafted named fruiting form you need to be sure you don’t cut too far down or you tend to get growth from below the graft.

It is closely related to, for example, Pyracantha [which can be used as dwarfing rootstock for grafting it onto], and responds the same to ‘restorative' pruning.

If what you want is a vase shaped shrub with big leaves and no visible stem; cut it down to two inches from the soil about now. They tend to throw a lot of replacement shoots from a cut back into thicker wood, so if you pruned back the branches you would get a thicket of ‘shuttlecocks’ with the re-growth. They can be thinned out but it is quite tricky to get ‘balance’ back.

Good information for growing for fruit production here.

Chad.

ps. Hard pruning usually works, but there is a small risk it would kill the tree!
Half Hardy

Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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There is one locally,that has been left in a pot.I know has been there for at least 5 yrs.It always looks very healthy.Perhaps you could plant yours in a sunken container,to restrict growth.
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Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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Half Hardy wrote:I am just about to buy loquat seed (apparently they have to be very fresh,to get them to germinate).Anybody got a rough idea how long it would take to grow to that size,from seed?
Sal has grown several from supermarket fruits, he says they grow like weeds :)
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Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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I was going to buy a standard type but I'm thinking now to go for a bush as I pressume I could then just trim it?
guy by me just goes over it with shears from a ladder, it's a lovely shape about 10' tall but probably just as wide.
cordyman

Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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Mr List wrote:if you want short plants don't but big trees for the spots you have.

Really, you've never moved a plant before that turned out not to be in the most appropriate spot? :roll: :lol:
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Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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derrick wrote:One in Southampton as big as a house not cut just wild most I see are something like a umbrella like say a small olive tree ask Billabong Captain cave man . Some shapes cordy on small plants

I love the cut on that first pic, removing lower leaves to get the tropical lower branch look, may take some height off it and do that!

Half Hardy wrote:
Mr List wrote:if you want short plants don't but big trees for the spots you have.
That told you! Now go and sit on the naughty step :)

By that logic,if you don't want plants to die in winter,only plant 100% hardy plants. Sensible but not very interesting. :?

I am just about to buy loquat seed (apparently they have to be very fresh,to get them to germinate).Anybody got a rough idea how long it would take to grow to that size,from seed?

Concur its all about experimented, one of my fav parts of this gardening lark, is redesigning, and moving stuff about :lol:

I grew x20 from seed last year, got to 6" tall really quick, then all went downhill after summer and died, bar one which was put into a bigger pot. The x19 which died werent rootbound either, so not sure what happened.

Chad wrote:If it is a seedling being grown for foliage effect you can’t really go wrong.

If it is a grafted named fruiting form you need to be sure you don’t cut too far down or you tend to get growth from below the graft.

It is closely related to, for example, Pyracantha [which can be used as dwarfing rootstock for grafting it onto], and responds the same to ‘restorative' pruning.

If what you want is a vase shaped shrub with big leaves and no visible stem; cut it down to two inches from the soil about now. They tend to throw a lot of replacement shoots from a cut back into thicker wood, so if you pruned back the branches you would get a thicket of ‘shuttlecocks’ with the re-growth. They can be thinned out but it is quite tricky to get ‘balance’ back.

Good information for growing for fruit production here.

Chad.

ps. Hard pruning usually works, but there is a small risk it would kill the tree!
Is there a way I can tell if its a graft, I can't see any join at the top of the trunk, it just seems the previous side shoots have been cut to encourage a solitary stem with a bushy head.


Half Hardy wrote:There is one locally,that has been left in a pot.I know has been there for at least 5 yrs.It always looks very healthy.Perhaps you could plant yours in a sunken container,to restrict growth.
I should have done that from the get go icon_thumleft But now it would mean digging it up, then i'd probably just move it to another spot, I heard they don't like root disturbance and this can see them off, icon_scratch
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Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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cordyman wrote: Is there a way I can tell if its a graft, I can't see any join at the top of the trunk, it just seems the previous side shoots have been cut to encourage a solitary stem with a bushy head.
Unless you bought it from a specialist supplier as a named fruiting variety you can assume it was a seedling.

If you like the bare stem then cut back as hard as you like and it will usually sprout from just above the cut. If it puts out a load of shoots, then ‘rub out’ the ones you don’t need when they are still little more than a bud and it should just grow away.

Chad.
cordyman

Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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Bought from easy tropical Chad

http://www.easytropicals.com/pp/Fruitin ... _Tree.html


Does that link help? The other ones he had at the nursery had some fruit on them
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Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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If they were a named graft they would be boasting about it and charging more for it I think!

Chad.
cordyman

Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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That's a great help cheers ill give it looks hard prune!
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Re: How should I prune this Loquat?

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Well the pruning went a little like this

"i'll just take a tiny bit off the top"

"hmmmmmmmm doesnt look right on that side now"

*snip*

"bit more balance needed"

"hmmmmmmm that whole section needs thinning"

*snip. snip*

"or perhaps an entire crown reduction"

*snnnnnnnnnnnnip*

"lets just prune it hard for regrowth"

*SNIP*

OH dear! :shock:




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So a superhard prune, I was even debating doing what chad said and cutting everything off right to the top of the trunk, "pollarding" it as such, to let the whole head regrow and keep under control. This thing grows like a weed though, so reckon by end of season it will have bushed out again.
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