What palms to propagate

fern Rob

What palms to propagate

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I would like to propagate some palms from seed. This is where it get difficult, I want to propagate something that is rare, hard to get hold of and desirable to palm collectors.
What palm seeds would you suggest?
What would I need to propagate them?
A plant that is rare in cultivation and the wild would be good so the propagation would boost numbers in some way, a little more like conservation.
fern Rob

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I should also add is there any rare Australian/ New Zealand plants doesn't have to be a palms that would we worth propagating .
Half Hardy

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fern Rob wrote:I should also add is there any rare Australian/ New Zealand plants doesn't have to be a palms that would we worth propagating .
xanthorrhoea -problem is they only look really impressive with a trunk and you don't want to know how long thats going to take.I have only ever seen in 2 real life and they were not for sale at any price.I have seen some for sale on the internet they were about £2000.They are quite easy from seed,I have a few on my window ledge,after 3yrs they look like a couple of blades of grass :shock:

More realistic options would be

Archontophoenix purpurea (purple king palm)will take a small amount of frost(around -4*c) I have been on the lookout for one for a couple of years without any luck.Some seed would be nice if anyone can help.

I would imagine small cyathea dealbata would be popular.

Real cordyline indivisa.
fern Rob

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Half Hardy wrote:
fern Rob wrote:I should also add is there any rare Australian/ New Zealand plants doesn't have to be a palms that would we worth propagating .
xanthorrhoea -problem is they only look really impressive with a trunk and you don't want to know how long thats going to take.I have only ever seen in 2 real life and they were not for sale at any price.I have seen some for sale on the internet they were about £2000.They are quite easy from seed,I have a few on my window ledge,after 3yrs they look like a couple of blades of grass :shock:

More realistic options would be

Archontophoenix purpurea (purple king palm)will take a small amount of frost(around -4*c) I have been on the lookout for one for a couple of years without any luck.Some seed would be nice if anyone can help.

I would imagine small cyathea dealbata would be popular.

Real cordyline indivisa.
I wish I had a Xanthorrohea of any size even if they where a few blades of grass. I have been looking at some Xanthorrohea seeds but I don't know of anyone that suppliers them in the UK or EU.
Cyathea Dealbata can actually be purchased relatively cheep at the moment, 15-20 cm trunk for around £35 pounds is a good price.
Half Hardy

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Other non Aussie options would be.

Brahea decumbens.
Parajubaea.
Butiagrus-parajubaea/jubaea/syagrus hybrids.
BlueJubaea chilensis.

The problem is,they are all rare for good reasons.
fern Rob

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Half Hardy wrote:Other non Aussie options would be.

Brahea decumbens.
Parajubaea.
Butiagrus-parajubaea/jubaea/syagrus hybrids.
BlueJubaea chilensis.

The problem is,they are all rare for good reasons.
Where did you get your Xanthorrohea seeds from?
miketropic

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we have wholesale nurserys that sell small ones so I guess whats rare over there isn't rare over here always
fern Rob

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miketropic wrote:we have wholesale nurserys that sell small ones so I guess whats rare over there isn't rare over here always
Xanthorrohea ?
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Xanthorrhoea seed is available from Sunshine seeds. As with all 'rare' stuff the germination will be unpredictable, but if you don't try you'd never get anything!

Chad.
miketropic

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fern Rob wrote:
miketropic wrote:we have wholesale nurserys that sell small ones so I guess whats rare over there isn't rare over here always
Xanthorrohea ?

the grass tree right? yeah there is a whole sale place out in arizona I think that sells them.
Kristen

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fern Rob wrote:I should also add is there any rare Australian/ New Zealand plants doesn't have to be a palms that would we worth propagating .
Dunno about rare, but I have bought seed from both these Australian seed vendors (on Aussi eBay)

kenni_koala_seeds http://myworld.ebay.com.au/kenni_koala_seeds/
muzzadb http://myworld.ebay.com.au/muzzadb/

Seeds seemed to get here OK without being molested by customs! But YMMV of course.

Other sources of unusal seeds that I have brough from include:

http://www.rarepalmseeds.com
taste.ecrater.com
http://www.secretseeds.com (UK based, still trading AFAIK, but last time I looked their website wasn't doing anything :( )
georgiavines eBay http://myworld.ebay.com/georgiavines
Scampton Succulents http://scamptonsucculents.mybisi.com/

Other seed sellers I've used which may have Rare / Unusual things, but also have mainstream things, and I buy several things from each of them every year:

http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk
http://www.seedaholic.com
http://www.plant-world-seeds.com
http://www.rpseeds.co.uk
Smartseeds http://www.ebay.com/sch/smartseeds/m.html
ChilternSeeds.co.uk
Last edited by Kristen on Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Kristen

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P.S. And then, if you have deep pockets!!, you can drool over Strange Wonderful Things:

Brocheur: http://www.strangewonderfulthings.com/index.html
Shop: www.ebay.com/sch/strange_wonderful_things/m.html
fern Rob

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Kristen wrote:P.S. And then, if you have deep pockets!!, you can drool over Strange Wonderful Things:

Brocheur: http://www.strangewonderfulthings.com/index.html
Shop: http://www.ebay.com/sch/strange_wonderful_things/m.html
Wow
fern Rob

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miketropic wrote:
fern Rob wrote:
miketropic wrote:we have wholesale nurserys that sell small ones so I guess whats rare over there isn't rare over here always
Xanthorrohea ?

the grass tree right? yeah there is a whole sale place out in arizona I think that sells them.
Its strange as I didn't think the export of them was easy to do anymore. Not the Mexican grass tree by any chance?
fern Rob

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Chad wrote:Xanthorrhoea seed is available from Sunshine seeds. As with all 'rare' stuff the germination will be unpredictable, but if you don't try you'd never get anything!

Chad.
Thanks
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