Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

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Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by fieldfest » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:35 am

thinking of getting one, is it hardy enough to leave outdoors with a cloche/glass over it all winter?


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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by GREVILLE » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:18 pm

Dave, do you mean the Partridge-breasted or Tiger Aloe?

I have overwintered a couple unprotected before now on a gritty raised bed underneath my Phoenix canariensis_CIDP. The first one survived two successive winters with virtually no frost but perished in the third winter after an overnight low of -1c came immediately after a very wet spell. More recently one came through the winter of 2008 with the whole bed covered with a blanket during frosty weather, but this trick didn't work for December 2009. It hadn't made much growth the previous summer as it had difficulty negotiating the mat of palm roots.

I put in a variegated Aloe gariepensis last summer in a dry spot right up against the trunk of the palm, sharing a space with Echeveria perle von nurnberg, and looking good together this morning after succesive lows of -3c and -2c. I hasten to add I put a blanket over them on Monday in anticipation of the frosts :D

I only ever plant out succulent bedding from divided pot plants that are overwintered inside. My insurance policy if I lose any.

I would suggest you only overwinter your Aloe outside after it's pupped and you have back-up. I don't expect most variegated Aloes to survive cloche covered much below -3c or -4c and certainly not through any daytime freezes. If you have one with multiple pups you can try straight away, otherwise there's no harm done planting one out in the spot assigned for it and lift before winter.


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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by JoelR » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:33 pm

Aloe striatula or Aloe aristata would do better outdoors. Aloe mutabilis also supposed to be hardyish. No aloes survived last winter for me outdoors but maybe if my striatula had been more established it would have regrown from the roots.


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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by fieldfest » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:11 pm

GREVILLE wrote:Dave, do you mean the Partridge-breasted or Tiger Aloe?
Yes, i might give it a try then as mine will be in a gritty sloped raised bed under a Phoenix canariensis_CIDP and i intend to cover it for cold weather

Joel I have Aristata but its not the prettiest available, striatula looks good though-i'll investigate that one-thanks!


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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by GREVILLE » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:36 pm

The tiny spines on A.aristata make them look a bit variegated but their free and long-lasting flowering certainly makes them very pretty when they open.

Aloe striatula like aristata are very hardy down south and need no protection down to -12c as long as they're treading on grit. I've had these growing and flowering successfully for about twelve years.

I acquired a variegated Aloe arborescens some years ago and some rooted cuttings off the potted plant have been used as bedding with the other succulents spring to Autumn and they look very good as they don't branch too freely unlike their all-green counterpart.


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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by Arlon Tishmarsh » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:42 pm

I been experimenting ( trying to kill) a bog standard aloe vera , no protection etc ....and it still lives :(


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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by JoelR » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:13 pm

Impressive that it's still alive Arlon. Looks like it's on it's way out though....I once read a Sarah Raven article in which she stated Aloe barbadensis (vera) is worth trying outdoors.

There are large forms of Aloe aristata that are worth looking out for Fieldfest. One is called "Cathedral" I think. I agree with Greville the flowers are worth the trouble. Mine flowered last year and I managed to get viable seed from it.

Forgot to mention Aloe polyphylla for near hardiness. Needs planting on a slope and might survive long term in some parts of the UK.


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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by call » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:40 pm

i dont know why you would want to kill a vera mine is doing really well in the pollytunnel and has produced loads of offsets
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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by Arlon Tishmarsh » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:12 pm

call wrote:i dont know why you would want to kill a vera mine is doing really well in the pollytunnel and has produced loads of offsets
More of a tester / benchmark Call, to see how low they'll go. I got others icon_thumleft

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Post by call » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:21 pm

well good :D
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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by fieldfest » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:30 pm

ive bought one now £1.99 so might take a while to grow

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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by call » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:59 pm

all my aloes are doing realy well
as i said vera has produced offsets
astariata has a really big rosete and producing offsets
variagata the same
mitriformis getting bigger by the day
and my aloe/ hathwothia hybrid black gem is also doing well :D :D :D
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Re: Have you wintered Aloe Variegata outdoors?

Post by doncasterpalmguy123 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:58 pm

Aloe Variegata is supposed to be hardy down to -3C or -6C is it is older, more established and has experienced cool winters before. Like with many exotics i think experience is needed for them to be come hardier. Im thinking of overwintering mine next year. My plan is to acclimatise it for one winter in the conservatory so it gets used to cool winter temperatures (this is the experience part) then the next year have it outside with protection. Just one more point obviously you all know they're succulents; so for them to stand a better chance of them surviving, they will need sandy (well drained) soil and need little or even no water as the freezing and thawing could split them apart if they have too much water within them. :D
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