Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by miketropic » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:38 am

Alexander wrote:
miketropic wrote:Ive only messed with the thai giant..plant delights has some form of gigante they sell but I have never seen one in person but from all i have read and pics I have seen they look similar to mammoth in leaf structure and the way they are held..thai giant looks like no other colocasia
My Colocasia gigantea Thai Giant comes from Plant delight nursery. I have visited that nursery last May. Very nice place!

Alexander
Ive never been but they do have alot of good stuff..at insanely high prices.

As for the Thai I assure you coddy you have what we are all growing. I have noticed since they are grown from seed they vary greatly. Mine seems to hold a more glossy leaf with a bit of blue and the leaf never gets fully flat. My friend has one and it get very very flat leaves with a matter finish to it and his pupped twice also while mine did not.

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Alexander » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:37 am

miketropic wrote:
Alexander wrote:
miketropic wrote:Ive only messed with the thai giant..plant delights has some form of gigante they sell but I have never seen one in person but from all i have read and pics I have seen they look similar to mammoth in leaf structure and the way they are held..thai giant looks like no other colocasia
My Colocasia gigantea Thai Giant comes from Plant delight nursery. I have visited that nursery last May. Very nice place!

Alexander
Ive never been but they do have alot of good stuff..at insanely high prices.

As for the Thai I assure you coddy you have what we are all growing. I have noticed since they are grown from seed they vary greatly. Mine seems to hold a more glossy leaf with a bit of blue and the leaf never gets fully flat. My friend has one and it get very very flat leaves with a matter finish to it and his pupped twice also while mine did not.
Plant Delight Nursery gets the seeds from Thailand then? Maybe I should go to that area one day myself then.
Well mine I have actually planted in our tropical butterflygarden here in town. There it can grow into its full tropical size! Its was arround 16 Dollars I paid for it. Well prizes must drop in the futur if those sort of plants get more availble.

Alexander

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Post by miketropic » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:08 pm

Alexander wrote:Plant Delight Nursery gets the seeds from Thailand then? Maybe I should go to that area one day myself then.
Well mine I have actually planted in our tropical butterflygarden here in town. There it can grow into its full tropical size! Its was arround 16 Dollars I paid for it. Well prizes must drop in the futur if those sort of plants get more availble.

Alexander
When I was talking about them comming from seed I wasn't speaking of PD..I have no idea where they get theres. I would say tissue culture from agri starts or AG3. The ones that come from Brians are from seed and vary widely in there appearance and habit. I know they are a new thing over in the UK but you can get them easily from many places in the US any time of year.

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Alexander » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:43 am

miketropic wrote:Plant Delight Nursery gets the seeds from Thailand then? Maybe I should go to that area one day myself then.
Well mine I have actually planted in our tropical butterflygarden here in town. There it can grow into its full tropical size! Its was arround 16 Dollars I paid for it. Well prizes must drop in the futur if those sort of plants get more availble.

Alexander
Alexander wrote: When I was talking about them comming from seed I wasn't speaking of PD..I have no idea where they get theres. I would say tissue culture from agri starts or AG3. The ones that come from Brians are from seed and vary widely in there appearance and habit. I know they are a new thing over in the UK but you can get them easily from many places in the US any time of year.
Well if they are grown from tissue culture its bassically one clone. From seeds you always get some genetic variation. Well the thing with that Plant Delight Nursery is that I had mad a gentleman from the EPS forum whom is working there and with whom I went to the Green Swamp in Norh Carolina.
The Green Swamp is an area you can see several carnivorous plants in habitat. Well then I heard they had a couple of days later an open day at Plant Delight Nursery. It seems they have 4 open days a year. Well as I had hoped to visit that nursery and get some special plants we went there. They have a very nice collection of plants there. And well they are expensive but those plants I had bought are not availble here. For example Crinum ''Super Ellen'' is not grown here as far as I know. And I got a pot with 18 young ones for 16 dollars. So I am growing those now in my polytunnel and one day they will find new homes. A new plant for European gardens.
I have seen that you folks overthere in America have lots of nice plants not found in Europe. Those new Crinum cultivars are a good example.

Alexander
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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Dave Brown » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:33 am

Another update on one of mine.

The latest leaf, which is not full grown yet, as is still floppy, is 73cm (28.7") x 59cm (23.2")
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Post by Somerset77 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:01 pm

Just noticed my Thai giant is starting to pup now icon_cheers

Also slightly off topic but my Portadora is pupping too! Double icon_cheers icon_cheers
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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by miketropic » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:06 am

mine is starting its second set of flowers :(

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Dave Brown » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:03 am

miketropic wrote:mine is starting its second set of flowers :(
Mine has as well, Mike, but no pups.

I think I might have reached the limit of leaf size in a pot, as the last 3 are all similar size.

Largest leaf 77cm x 60cm
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Largest leaf 81cm x 69cm
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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by miketropic » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:32 pm

all of Brians are seed grown and the diversity in leaf shape, size and color is amazeing.. yours looks nothing like mine or a friends yet all the same things..I would say plant out and dig up Dave, thats the only way i get them big over here. mine has put out 2 "monstrose" type leaves since the flowers started

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Dave Brown » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:17 am

miketropic wrote:I would say plant out and dig up Dave, thats the only way i get them big over here. mine has put out 2 "monstrose" type leaves since the flowers started
It's a bit late this year Mike, but I'll see how we go next year.

Pics of mine today.
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and to give a size context, although not huge....
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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Alexander » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:39 am

Dave,

Those Colocasias look very good there in Kent. Probably the warm summer has given them that extra boost.

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Dave Brown » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:34 am

Alexander wrote:Dave,

Those Colocasias look very good there in Kent. Probably the warm summer has given them that extra boost.

Alexander
Yes, most probably. I was talking to the guys 'n' gals over on the Alocasia/Colocasia group on facebook, and some of them in the US have the same problem growing Thai's that plagues many of us. Having spoken to many people on this, Thai Giant seems to think it is an Alocasia rather than a Colocasia. This means it likes to dry out slightly between waterings, and like to be dry fairly quickly if (when) it cools off.

My growing in pots, and small pots compared to the size of the plant, and mixing a fair amount of perlite in the mix, allows it to dry quickly. This is different to how most Colocasia grow in the summer, being happy sat in a tray of water.

Picture of the size of pot the largest Giant is currently in :wink:
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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by Alexander » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:19 pm

In the wild those Colocasia gigantea seem to grow on the base of limestonecliffs. So a more free draining habitat then for example C. esculenta wich grows usely at wet places.

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Re: Colocasia gigantea 'Thai Giant'

Post by miketropic » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:47 am

I put this in my blog but it should go here as well..went on a bit of a feild trip with Brian the other day to see the largest Thai I have ever seen.. leaves at least 6 ft long and still 12 flowers on it.

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