Seeding dead tree fern stumps

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Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by chrismc » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:40 pm

Hi All,
just wondered if anyone has ever seeded a tree fern crown with tree fern spores? ive seen a few people attaching other things but i wondered is this worth trying to get the crown reestablished with an new fern?


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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by Tom2006 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:19 am

No not heard it tried and almost certainly wouldn't work long term as the roots of the new tree fern would have no where to go.
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by HarryandNess » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:17 pm

Hi Chris,
This is a £3 tree fern in the top of an 18" dead trunk about 18 months ago. So far so good. Get a long masonry drill and drill deep holes through. You have nothing to lose in trying.
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This is the same plant - much bigger fronds than last year. It's been moved inside because it's still a baby, just planted in a bigger trunk.
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by Shamone10 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:24 pm

Wow that's mad, nice pics thankyou didn't know that would be possible lol. Does the old trunk take years to rot, giving the roots enough time to get all the way down the drilled hole into soil?

And then I guess it produces its own trunk inside-out? somehow.... :twisted:


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Post by The Codfather » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:26 pm

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Post by Tom2006 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:28 pm

Looks pretty impressive. Keep us updated!
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by HarryandNess » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:07 pm

Shamone10 wrote:Wow that's mad, nice pics thankyou didn't know that would be possible lol. Does the old trunk take years to rot, giving the roots enough time to get all the way down the drilled hole into soil?

And then I guess it produces its own trunk inside-out? somehow.... :twisted:
Hi Shamone, I've got absolutely no idea if the trunk will rot or not. We'll wait and see. It's in our cold 'hothouse' :lol: at the moment (just above freezing). It's still pushing up new fronds so I give it some tepid water now and again.
Tom2006 wrote:Looks pretty impressive. Keep us updated!
Will do Tom icon_thumleft It's worth a try for £3
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by jungle jas » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:24 pm

I did a similar thing last year hollowed out a dead trunk then bought a tree fern plug off EBay and planted it in the top. OK so far. icon_thumright
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by Dave Brown » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:17 am

I started a topic 3 or 4 years ago suggesting this, but people who tried did not seem to have success. Having looked into the way Dicksonia antarctica grows it might not be as straight forward as I thought.

The Dicksonia antarctica has a rhizome running down the centre of the trunk and roots radiate from it forming the fibrous trunk. Roots come out of the bottom of the rhizome into the soil as well, but I don't know how long they can get.

Providing the trunk you plant it into isn't too tall for the roots to get to the ground it should work ok, but in trunks taller than say 2ft the roots may not make it to the soil so the crown will always remain small and not thrive. Obviously watering and feeding the trunk is important in this type of planting
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:37 am

The old dead trunk will rot away in time leaving the new Dicksonia antarctica hanging in mid air. But I guess worth it for the short term.


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Post by Dave Brown » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:49 am

Yorkshire Kris wrote:The old dead trunk will rot away in time leaving the new Dicksonia antarctica hanging in mid air. But I guess worth it for the short term.
Not necesarily if the new fern roots hold it together. People have thickened trunks by putting a layer of peat and wrapping in plastic. the roots grow into it and it becomes quite stable :wink:
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by chrisgronow » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:47 pm

Could you not hollow out the majority of the trunk and then fill it up with soil. Effectively using the old trunk as a pot? Thats what i've got planned for mine anyway? Still kinda hoping its alive though.


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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by Tom2006 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:17 am

How do we hollow them?
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by The Codfather » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:14 am

with a hole cutter on a drill.....
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Re: Seeding dead tree fern stumps

Post by Tom2006 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:58 am

off to google a hole cutter. :lol:
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