Fern ID please

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Fern ID please

Post by gdudey » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:30 pm

I got this fern in the pics a couple of months ago, I suspect its not what it was sold to me as. What do you think it is?

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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Conifers » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:58 pm

Could easily be Dryopteris filix-mas. What was it labelled as?


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Mr List » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:34 am

i thought it looked like some kind of polystichum


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Conifers » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:58 am

It doesn't have the characteristic Polystichum basal lobules.


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Mr List » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:29 am

well i don't even know what that is so ignore me :lol:


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Conifers » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:44 am

Mr List wrote:well i don't even know what that is so ignore me :lol:
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It's that in Polystichum species, the basal forward-pointing lobule (red arrow) on each pinna is distinctly larger than the other lobules; this isn't anything like as obvious on Dryopteris species.
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Re: Fern ID please

Post by gdudey » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:06 am

It was sold to me as a Matteuccia struthiopteris (shuttlecock fern) by Bowden Hosta. When I got it, it was more or less a rhizome. I was hoping it would develop the ostrich like fronds, but clearly that hasn't happened.


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Conifers » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:32 am

Certainly doesn't look like that!


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Nigel Fear » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:53 pm

Conifers wrote:Could easily be Dryopteris filix-mas. What was it labelled as?
That's what my guess would be too.


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by gdudey » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:10 pm

Thanks for your help!

So definitely not a Matteuccia struthiopteris then? I don't know whether to count my losses or take it up with Bowden its been a couple of months since I bought it.


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Conifers » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:42 pm

Dryopteris filix-mas is one of the commonest native ferns, I'd guess it grew from spores that blew in, and no-one noticed it had replaced a Matteuccia that had died.

Did it cost much? If yes, then complain; if it wasn't much, then it's not worth the hassle.


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Arlon Tishmarsh » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:43 am

If it helps GD, here's a pic one of my juvenile shuttlecocks for comparison ( pup from last year) plus a pic of my shuttlecock bed .................
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Shuttlecock juvenile
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Shuttlecock bed
and a mature shuttlecock. I have 2 this size which have now formed "trunks" about 12" high.
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Mature shuttlecock


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Mr List » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:32 am

your shuttlecocks look different to mine, have you got the 'jumbo' variety because that is supposed to have a larger more open crown.


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by Arlon Tishmarsh » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:08 pm

Mr List wrote:your shuttlecocks look different to mine, have you got the 'jumbo' variety because that is supposed to have a larger more open crown.
I don't Know tbh MrL. I bought two a few years ago now. With their "trunks" they stand about 4ft high. Its possible it looks very open in the crown as its ready to flush again. The good thing about these is the number of pups to split off and plant eleswhere.
One of my favourite ferns , just wish they were evergreen


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Re: Fern ID please

Post by gdudey » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:52 pm

Thanks Arlon that's very helpful icon_thumleft

Its sunk in now that I don't have a shuttlecock fern. So I'll email Bowden about it


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