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ID evergreen ground fern

Post by allangreenbean » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:17 pm

Can anyone give me an ID on this evergreen ground fern.

Yeah, I know I should know what it is since I planted it but that was before I started paying attention to what they are called rather than just picking things because they looked good before doing any sort of research.

I planted it about 2 or so years ago possibly 3 years. Its actually growing in a hole I dug out and it seems to like it in there. The theory was that it would get some shading from the sun and it would stay moist.

Its about 80cm across and the fronds are about the same.
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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by fern Rob » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:32 pm

Hi,
Don't quote me on this as ground ferns are not my strong points, but after doing some research it could be the native ground fern Dryopteris filix-mas as it seems to resemble your picture and grow in a semi shaded position. :D
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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by Mr List » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:58 pm

dryoptreris affinis becuase of the tougher look imho


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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by Conifers » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:07 pm

I'd agree more likely Dryopteris affinis. Can you get a close-up pic of a frond stem, please? That'll help confirm it.


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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by fern Rob » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:14 pm

Hi,
I'm only familiar with Tree ferns but could the tougher look be to do with the pinnate being more mature as it has gone through the season?
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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by allangreenbean » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:51 am

Here is a picture of the stems, no brilliantly clear but hopefully will help with ID.
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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by fern Rob » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:09 am

My opinion is that it is Dryopteris filix-mas but with the amount of ground fern in the world you would have to have the two at the side of each other to be 100% sure.
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Post by Conifers » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:28 pm

Yep, agree now with Dryopteris filix-mas - not enough scales on the stem for D. affinis.


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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by fern Rob » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:48 pm

Apparently the overall canopy spread of a D Filix- mas is 1.5M but that can take 5 to10 years :D . As it only got the one crown or as it multiple. :?:
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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by allangreenbean » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:27 pm

I think it could be felix-mas but it is so difficult to tell as so many ferns look very similar.

I am surprised how hardy it has been considering its semi-evergreen nature.

As it has been said mine looks quite hardened.

I also have a Cristata, at least that's a lot easier to identify, that one is looking sorry for itself though. I have moved it recently to a much more shaded and sheltered spot so hoping it will recover.


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Post by fern Rob » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:34 pm

I think filix- mas is a native so it should be hardy :)
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Post by Conifers » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:17 pm

fern Rob wrote:I think filix- mas is a native so it should be hardy :)
Yep, it is, on both counts.


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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by Dim » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:07 pm

I have several dryopteris filix mas ferns planted in a garden, and the colour is a lighter green than what is shown on the OP's photo (for this time of year)

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Re: ID evergreen ground fern

Post by Dryopteris » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:33 pm

A bit of an old topic but this is not Dryopteris filix-mas. You can see a dark blackish spot where the pinnae meet the rachis which is characteristic for Dryopteris affinis (agg.).
D. filix-mas is not evergreen while affinis is. Affinis has more scales and it has shiny more leathery leafs.

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