Chamaedorea radicalis

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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Mr List » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:00 am

got any seeds from yours then?


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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:12 am

Here's a very good related thread on GOTE

http://www.growingontheedge.net/viewtop ... 0&start=15


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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by DaveP » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:19 pm

Mr List wrote:got any seeds from yours then?
A few from a while back and I raised a couple of plants, which were then 'swapped' out. I'm keeping everything from this batch with a view to planting a low growing 'peninsular' of these interspersed with much taller growing palms.
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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Mr List » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:38 pm

wonder if you seedlings will ever turn out tougher.

any self sown ones?


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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by DaveP » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:07 pm

Mr List wrote:wonder if you seedlings will ever turn out tougher.
any self sown ones?
No self sown - not enough berries for that. I suspect that the offspring will be just as hardy as the parent plants and they are tough enough. They are with a friend who lives further along the coast where it is probably as mild as here. Despite the fact that the parent was planted out as a 2 leaf seedling years ago without any protection, he's keeping them under glass for the time being.
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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Dave Brown » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:12 am

I placed my trunking radicalis under the shade of the Trachies at the top of the garden for summer, it was given a splash of water while watering up there, but other then that was just part of the jungle up there. As we had the possibility of a frost last night I started to move plants into the polytunnel. When I got to the trunking radicalis, it has flowered and set fruit :ahhh!: :lol: Looking at my normal radicalis, only one palm flowered and that was a male. What are the chances of that happening :lol:

Here is the Trunking Chamaedorea radicalis
2012-10-13-16-12-20 Trunking Chamaedorea radicalis.jpg
and here is a close up of the berries
2012-10-13-16-13-02 Trunking Chamaedorea radicalis fruit.jpg
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Post by JakoMonster » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:11 pm

Dave Brown wrote:I placed my trunking radicalis under the shade of the Trachies at the top of the garden for summer, it was given a splash of water while watering up there, but other then that was just part of the jungle up there. As we had the possibility of a frost last night I started to move plants into the polytunnel. When I got to the trunking radicalis, it has flowered and set fruit :ahhh!: :lol: Looking at my normal radicalis, only one palm flowered and that was a male. What are the chances of that happening :lol:

Here is the Trunking Chamaedorea radicalis
2012-10-13-16-12-20 Trunking Chamaedorea radicalis.jpg
and here is a close up of the berries
2012-10-13-16-13-02 Trunking Chamaedorea radicalis fruit.jpg
nice! where did you get that one from?


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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Adrian » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:17 pm

Mine are often flowering but never set seed, or at least, no so I have noticed.
Nice palms but by god they are so slow.
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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by GREVILLE » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:35 pm

Mine is also sooooo slooooooow. I assume mine is stemless as it hasn't produce a stem after the last three years dug up from the ground as a seedling/sucker? after the main plant died/disappeared. It looks a picture of health despite its size.


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Post by redsquirrel » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:53 am

how long had the main plant been in the ground before it died?
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Post by Dave Brown » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:12 am

Adrian wrote:Mine are often flowering but never set seed, or at least, no so I have noticed.
Nice palms but by god they are so slow.
Maybe yours are males, or you don't have males in flower at the same time as females :roll: Yes slooow, this palm was from Peter Richardson's seed, in 2006, via Gary n Nat, so is 5 years old.

There was a discussion somewhere, not sure if on here or EPS, about hybridising the standard and trunking form, but unless this palm is self fertile, any plants will be a hybrid. It will be interesting to see what they turn out to be, if I manage to get viable seed then germinate them. :wink:
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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by GREVILLE » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:31 am

redsquirrel wrote:how long had the main plant been in the ground before it died?
I planted this about fifteen years ago and I remember it did practically nothing for the first two years. I initially put this down to transplanting shock as the compost fell away from a very spare root system when planting out. It then seemed to move more quickly and after two years I spotted new growth from the bottom.

I've never been able to determine if this was a genuine sucker or very tardy germination of seed. Either way this was very slow to grow as well.

The palm then got choked by Sasa palmata running all over the bed and I didn't get rid of this until three years ago when I 'rediscovered' the radicalis 'lost gardens of Heligan' style'. By this time the main plant was lost and all that remained was this stunted sucker so I dug it up and started it all over again .

This was it last Spring
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I suppose this plant must be twelve years old but the pic represents three years growth from a pair of juvenile leaves that were rescued from strangulation.


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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Dave Brown » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:56 am

Also for reference, look at this topic Chamaedorea radicalis forest Although bear in mind that it was started before the run of bad winters, so references to 'could naturalise' are now out of date :roll:
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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Adrian » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:07 pm

Must have been a slow germinating seed Greville as C.radicalis are non suckering palms.
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Re: Chamaedorea radicalis

Post by Dave Brown » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:16 pm

Adrian wrote:Must have been a slow germinating seed Greville as C.radicalis are non suckering palms.
Flower spikes come from below ground level so can be confused as suckers initially.
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