how reliable is the information

[miketropic]

I was looking at rare palms seeds website thinking of ordering some stuff and the more I looked the more palms its seemed I could grow. they have alot of palms rated to 0f and some in the negatives that I was under the impression were not that hardy. how reliable does everyone think this information is. I am guessing this would be for an established palm but still even then I didn't think they could take temps like that. It says Jubaea chilensis can go down to 3F with no damage which I find hard to believe. Just wondering what everyone thoughts were on this

[Conifers]

No idea, they're using an incomprehensible temperature measurement system

[Vagetarian]

Very unreliable is the answer.

Minimum temperature is only 1 small piece of the overall climate/hardiness picture. -10 for half an hour during one night of the year in an extremely dry desert is definitely not the same as -10 for 2 weeks in soaking wet soil in the UK (I think you've a similar climate to us) with next to no sunlight for 3 months.

[jungle jas]

I was looking at rare palms seeds website thinking of ordering some stuff and the more I looked the more palms its seemed I could grow. they have alot of palms rated to 0f and some in the negatives that I was under the impression were not that hardy. how reliable does everyone think this information is. I am guessing this would be for an established palm but still even then I didn't think they could take temps like that. It says Jubaea chilensis can go down to 3F with no damage which I find hard to believe. Just wondering what everyone thoughts were on this

I agree with Vag. Also most advise given by a lot of nurseries is suspect to say the least! They do not want to loose a sale. Best advise I can give is look round to see what is being grown in your vicinity you should be able to grow it as well.

[miketropic]

well thats the thing the other garden people around me are I guess I would call it simple..rose bushs, perennials you know nothing out of the ordinary, then my yards got bananas and palms and bamboo all over . Im the "strange guy" around here. the only things I know will make it here are needle palms, fortuni, sabal minor, and I have seen a waggie and a washy but they get protected well. I guess thats about my limits in this climate. really bothers me they would put that on there knowing 9 out of 10 people will buy it and expect it to make it and when it dies just blame themselves and not the nursery.

[jungle jas]

What sort of winter lows do you get there, also what are the summer highs? Do you have lots of rain in the winter?

[miketropic]

summer lows over the last 5 years have been about -7 to -9C and the highs are around 38 to 40C for a few months. not much rain snow every once in awhile. the rain comes in around april very heavy

[jungle jas]

summer lows over the last 5 years have been about -7 to -9C and the highs are around 38 to 40C for a few months. not much rain snow every once in awhile. the rain comes in around april very heavy

You should be able to grow your Jubaea there.