palm sowing

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palm sowing

Post by froggy » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:36 am

Hi I heve been soaking seed of bismarckia nobilis & brahea armarta for 3 days I have changed water every day leaving
seed out of water for about an hour or so between changes, water maintained @ 30 c. After looking up various sites
none seem to agree on whether to peel , scarify or leave seed as it is could anyone help please. I have succesfully
germinated over the last few weeks mussa red tiger, joshua tree and agavi selsi.
Thank you. Froggy.


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Re: palm sowing

Post by grub » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:56 am

Have a look at Dave Ison's site Froggy http://www.davespalmpages.co.uk/ or even over at the EPS http://www.palmsociety.org.uk/forum/
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Re: palm sowing

Post by tropical Tom » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:06 am

I would say peel, any seed that needs warmth to germinate will probably rot if not peeled. Don't just listen to me though, see what the others say :D
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Re: palm sowing

Post by flounder » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:00 pm

The brahea seeds I can definitely say no to scarifying. Thats through personal experience though. They generally have a veerryy long germination period 6-18 months. I've had one germinate in six weeks but only one, the rest average around the 9-12 month mark. Any ones I've scarified, have all rotted.
Palms seeds I tend to use the 'baggie' method. The medium being 50/50 perlite vermiculite. i don't use just vermiculite as it tends to go stodgy on its own.
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Re: palm sowing

Post by miketropic » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:09 pm

I have some Licuala grandis and Bismarckia germinating as well. I soaked them for a few days then put each one into a cell pack with some seed starting mix slightly moist. I covered the cell packs with some clear wrap and sat them in the prop. I check on them every few days to see any growth but nothing yet. we should keep each other updated so we can get down a appox. germ time on the Bismarckia.
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Re: palm sowing

Post by froggy » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:52 am

miketropic wrote:I have some Licuala grandis and Bismarckia germinating as well. I soaked them for a few days then put each one into a cell pack with some seed starting mix slightly moist. I covered the cell packs with some clear wrap and sat them in the prop. I check on them every few days to see any growth but nothing yet. we should keep each other updated so we can get down a appox. germ time on the Bismarckia.
Hi miketropic after a lot of suggested methods I have greatfully recieved I have decided to try sowing directly into
deep pots. will keep you informed.
Cheers.
Froggy.


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Re: palm sowing

Post by countrylover » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:07 pm

I always treat palm seeds with smoke and ash. They always germinate much much faster than those not treated.
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Re: palm sowing

Post by miketropic » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:35 pm

care to explain that one since Ive never heard of it
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Re: palm sowing

Post by countrylover » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:46 pm

There was a topic I posted about it on this forum.
It is simple Mike, you just copy mother nature. When you treat seeds with smoke you kinda send a message to them "hallo, your mum died in fire, so it is time for you to grow quick before other plants take over the place..."
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Re: palm sowing

Post by miketropic » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:28 pm

do you have a link to the process? I would end up with cooked bismark seeds if I don't have instruction :lol:
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Re: palm sowing

Post by flounder » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:32 pm

Thats a method I use for plants from an area with bush fires, like any South African or Australian seeds I try. You can buy smoke primer discs, but I just soak seeds in water that has wood ash added. Its messy, but I get good results icon_thumleft
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Re: palm sowing

Post by countrylover » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:49 pm

Mike I found an article about it long time ago in a magazine and decided to try this method on some palm seeds that I could not make to germinate for over a year. Because I smoke it was easy to treat them and after a week all of them germinated :D
There was a nice website on treating seeds with smoke but ain't got a link, sorry
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Re: palm sowing

Post by flounder » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:52 pm

Cl, you use cigarette ash? :shock: All those harmful pollutants! If it works though..... icon_thumright
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Re: palm sowing

Post by countrylover » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:57 pm

Yes Flounder, I treat a box with seeds as an ashtray too :lol:
And people say only bad things about smoking :(
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Re: palm sowing

Post by flounder » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:59 pm

countrylover wrote:Yes Flounder, I treat a box with seeds as an ashtray too :lol:
And people say only bad things about smoking :(
Must try it, I generate way too much ash for my health :wink:
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