Dioon Cycad germination time?

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by kata » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:33 am

,temp varies between 22 and 30 ish in there
MH,

Can an airing cupboard maintain enough heat overnight?

Also these Phoenix canariensis_CIDP that refuse to germinate must be ok. I tried in lukewarm water and no messing straight to the bottom.

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by metalhammer » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:54 am

The day/night cycle helps in germination.There is considerable dispute about that,but I have always adopted the day/night regime because that's what happens in the wild.If I leave the door closed on my airing cupboard,the temperature would stay around 28c all night because the hot water tank in there stays hot all night.I turn off the tube heater in there & open the door for 8-9 hrs.




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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by metalhammer » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:58 am

Sanatic,a good seed/cutting compost should have little or no nutrient.A lot of people fail beacause they use multi-purpose,it's as it says on the bag multi-purpose,but it doesn't do any of the jobs really well,but for the average gardener,this isn't a problem.For more specialist plants,then it can become a problem.




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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by sanatic1234 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:36 pm

I checked my cycads today and they have a hard little shoot coming out the bottom but nothing at the top do i have the seeds upside down or something icon_scratch

Also the compost i am using metalhammer has served me very well so far. got 2 washies to germinate my Bird of Paradise's to germinate. and loads of cannas although they are easy to grow anyway. :lol:
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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by redsquirrel » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:04 pm

mine are going down too,a root perhaps.
anyway,made a note of the cycads etc that i have managed to overwinter so far icon_thumright these all came from Francis and im pleased to report no casualties.
Zamia fischerii
Zamia furfurcracea
Zamia pumila
Dioon augustifolium
Dioon spinulosum
Dioon edule
Macrzamia communis
Macrozamia panzhihuanensis.

theres the usual cycas revolutas outside and the cycas thourarsii plus debs bowenia spectibilis.
how ive not lost any is beyond me,beginners luck maybe??
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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by kata » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:51 pm

Heres a seed,

Not mine I hasten to add.

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by Dave Brown » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:07 pm

kata wrote:Heres a seed,

Not mine I hasten to add.

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by kata » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:20 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: You DB :lol:

But jokes aside. I thought the seedling would come out the groove not side on.

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by metalhammer » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:55 pm

Sanatic,if it works for you,carry on doing it.You know the old saying,'don't fix something that ain't broke'.

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by sanatic1234 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:56 am

Kata. My shoot certainly hasnt come out the side. :-) I have done some research on the seed and germination. Apparently the root comes through the bottom first then when the root is well established the spout will then come through the top but it needs a certain amount of nutrients before this happens.
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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by DiCasS » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:51 am

So you didn't forget Darren and leave your communis outside like I did then. It's a lovely shade of brown now and got a nice shine to the leaf :roll: I love this time of the year as now is the time I normally see the first sign of a flush (normally consisting of one) on my indoor ones. Mine have already started or getting ready to start :D

Well done Sanatic on your germination, you seem to be doing well on all your seed germination. :D

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by sanatic1234 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:08 am

Thanks Di Most of it is all thanks to my heated prop really. Its only my cycad and BOPs that were done the old way. I have been very lucky though on my germination rate. Cant wait till they all get well established so I can put pics on the site.
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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by carolpz » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:54 am

I cheated and bought some already germinated from Benny on David Ison's website. I can recommend these guys if you get fed up of waiting. They're always good plants, cheap and reliable.
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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by redsquirrel » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:05 am

DiCasS wrote:So you didn't forget Darren and leave your communis outside like I did then. It's a lovely shade of brown now and got a nice shine to the leaf :roll: I love this time of the year as now is the time I normally see the first sign of a flush (normally consisting of one) on my indoor ones. Mine have already started or getting ready to start :D

Well done Sanatic on your germination, you seem to be doing well on all your seed germination. :D

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Re: Dioon Cycad germination time?

Post by redsquirrel » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:12 pm

MH,tried uploading your pics but i have a problem with this.pc keeps freezing???
anyway,heres two i persevered with for half an hour
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seeds in box.All cycad seeds have the same germination process,root shoot comes out first & after this has turned down,the top splits & first leaf will emerge..jpg
Cycas sp germinating showing seed case splitting & root emergence..jpg
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