The official "does is need protecting yet" thread!

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Post by Simba » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:21 pm

I had a count up today and I still have about 20 large potted plants to protect... :?
All going into the garage this year, and cycads into the unheated conservatory.

Only protection to planted out will be Dicksonia, trunked Yucca and Cycas Revolutas, everything else will have to 'man up'... icon_thumright

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Re: The official "does is need protecting yet" thread!

Post by Tom2006 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:28 pm

If we are due to drop to 0C or just below the fleece will be onto of the Dicksonia antarctica and my very young Trachycarpus seedlings will go into the shed other than that everything will stay out. I think its the -4C and below that things start to get worrying for quite a few things.
Most wanted list - Any Young Trachycarpus and/or fern.

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Post by jimhardy » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:39 pm

Only the Bananas on that list,they will look a little cruddy
after some below freezing temps-the rest are fine.

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Post by Dave Brown » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:17 pm

sanatic1234 wrote:I went out tonight and measured my washy trunks, the diameters as i am going by Dave browns chart and what they will take. I have trunk diameters of 15-17cm's so mine are at the juvenile temps which is good seeing as they are only 2 years old i think?. :lol:
If you have 17cm diameter trunks on 2 year palms that is pretty good going. What are you feeding them on..... steroids :lol:

2 year palms would normally have about a 5cm diameter trunk, which, using 2-pie-R, would be approx 16cm circumference. :wink:
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Post by mumfie » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:33 pm

i'd be putting sago away very soon if in pot, closely followed by washy (but they like light).

save chammies and trachies til mid/late november

the nana will hardly grow now. you could chop leaves off and give cuts a chance to "heal" before the big wrap-up.

you could tie fronds of tree ferns up and bung some straw in the crown. you could also get the cage ready for further protection - it will save efforts when the weather really turns. early nov you can complete the wrapping job.

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Post by Sat » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:32 pm

Yorkshire Kris wrote:Well i do have all those plant. The sago and washy will go into the garage. My sikki seedlings into the greenhouse. The rest left to it.

Reading this thread on cycad sago and the advice I got last yr is different,
The advice was not to store in garage but keep outdoor for light and only bring indoor on coldest Nights

See. Below thread


http://www.hardytropicals.co.uk/forum/v ... f=1&t=9353

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Re: The official "does is need protecting yet" thread!

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:38 pm

Sat wrote:
Yorkshire Kris wrote:Well i do have all those plant. The sago and washy will go into the garage. My sikki seedlings into the greenhouse. The rest left to it.

Reading this thread on cycad sago and the advice I got last yr is different,
The advice was not to store in garage but keep outdoor for light and only bring indoor on coldest Nights

See. Below thread


http://www.hardytropicals.co.uk/forum/v ... f=1&t=9353

There is more than one way to skin a cat!

I have overwintered the same cycas revoluta in my unheated garage for the two previous (very cold winters) with no probs. The leaves stayed fully green throughout.

Simba wrapped up his in the garden with lots of fleece and therefore these were also kept in dark conditions and survived.

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Post by Yorkshire Kris » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:42 pm

As further proof see page 4 of my blog,

http://www.hardytropicals.co.uk/forum/v ... 7&start=45


it shows the cycas this March after I just got it out of the garage, look alright to me :wink:

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Post by Sat » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:58 pm

That's good to hear

Did you put pot as is ? No watering , let dry out naturally? Did u have to keep soil moist?

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Post by Yorkshire Kris » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:00 pm

Sat wrote:That's good to hear

Did you put pot as is ? No watering , let dry out naturally? Did u have to keep soil moist?

I did absolutely nothing to it between October 1st 2010-11th March 2011. It went in quite damp.
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Post by cordyman » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:29 pm

Yorkshire Kris wrote:
Sat wrote:That's good to hear

Did you put pot as is ? No watering , let dry out naturally? Did u have to keep soil moist?

I did absolutely nothing to it between October 1st 2010-11th March 2011. It went in quite damp.
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my sago is now in the shed, i think i'll leave it in there as opposed to struggling to get it into the house, soil is currently very wet too. Is your garage pitch black?

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Re: The official "does is need protecting yet" thread!

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:36 pm

cordyman wrote:
Yorkshire Kris wrote:
Sat wrote:That's good to hear

Did you put pot as is ? No watering , let dry out naturally? Did u have to keep soil moist?

I did absolutely nothing to it between October 1st 2010-11th March 2011. It went in quite damp.
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my sago is now in the shed, i think i'll leave it in there as opposed to struggling to get it into the house, soil is currently very wet too. Is your garage pitch black?

No it has a North facing window and I leave the door open in the day time.

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Re: The official "does is need protecting yet" thread!

Post by cordyman » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:13 pm

ok next weeks forcast

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9

by wed its getting to 5 *c at night

can i chance my Musa Basjoo and Sikki another week with no protection?

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Re: The official "does is need protecting yet" thread!

Post by Mr List » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:23 pm

you leave the nanas until the first frosts blacken the leaves

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Post by cordyman » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:45 pm

Mr List wrote:you leave the nanas until the first frosts blacken the leaves

i was thinking of cutting them off tomorrow 'Montbeliardii' don style and using them in a wigwam protection jobby

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