are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

sanatic1234

Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by sanatic1234 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:03 pm

I would like to add something also, is there any canna seeds out there that produce purple leaved foliage, I have a lot of green foliage canna's but i would like to add more purple foilaged ones to the canna's as well after seeing how well my Cleopatra's looked this year. I know of black knight but these don't produce seeds do they? i always seem to find rhizomes and at a nice price tag as well.

Ian Cooke

Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by Ian Cooke » Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:24 pm

In a garden situation where pollen could come from other cannas, they do not breed true so you cannot be sure what the offspring are likely to be. In particular cultivars including those with dark leaves will not breed true so you may take seed from a dark leaved one and the offspring could be green or purple leaved.

One USA canna breeder worked purely using the 'numbers game' - he took seed from all the cannas growing in his nursery and then grew all the seedlings. From maybe 3000 seedlings he would select 30 to grow on the next year and from that maybe three worth bulking up for sale. Its a huge gamble!

For purple foliage, you need to buy named cultivars and buy plants not dried rhizomes to avoid the virus.

sanatic1234

Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by sanatic1234 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:17 pm

Thank you Ian very useful information that. Plant buying for this type it is then. icon_thumright I will never buy a canna rhizome i just don't trust them.

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Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by simon » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:09 pm

Indica 'purpurea' is the best bet for purple foliage from seed. What Ian says makes perfect sense but that doesn't mean you have to stop trying them. I germinated indica 'Purpurea' seeds that fell into my pocket at whisley last autumn. The seedlings where all purple but to varying degrees. Just select the purplest ones to grow on and save the rhizomes.

Another one I tried from seed this year was C. speciosa. Green leaves but deep red stems, very nice plants.

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Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by sanatic1234 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:48 pm

That sounds good, simon i will try that. Thanks icon_thumright

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Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by Dave Brown » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:29 pm

This is a ripe Canna indica seed pod from back in 2006
Canna Indica seed pod 091006.jpg
And these are the seed I collected. A lot of them went to Lucien, so if any of you have seed from Lucien, they may be decended from mine - :lol:
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These were the plants they were from
Canna indica front garden July 2006.jpg
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Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by cordyman » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:19 pm

they remind me of large leaved salvias!

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Re: are these canna seed pods and when can I harvest them?

Post by The Codfather » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:24 pm

wow............I like them what a display.
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