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Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:09 pm
by Ste
Great pic. Is that a butia x jubea? It looks more like the BxJ rather than the JxB going off your older pics.

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:37 pm
by karl66
Ste, from research i've done that last pic is jubea x butia , as even with a hybrid the trunk gets very wide first & you will find when that palm pushes up another couple of feet the smooth typical jubea trunk will emerge. nigel may confirm this. karl.

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:44 pm
by Ste
Oh right, I just thought looking at the other pics the JxB had the smooth trunk whereas the BxJ looked more like butia - same looking trunk as normal butia

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:05 pm
by Nigel
yep its jxb same size as Jubaea but groing like a rocket.

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:44 pm
by redsquirrel
are the leaflets reduplicate or induplicate as on the jubaea?

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:40 pm
by Nigel
redsquirrel wrote:are the leaflets reduplicate or induplicate as on the jubaea?
:shock: Darren, its not changing to the phoenix genus :lol:

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:26 pm
by redsquirrel
:oops: :oops: :oops: ive never looked at this on butias which is why i asked you.
i take it from your reaction,butias are induplicate too??
i honestly believed jubaeas were like an odd one out being this,so much more to learn.
is it mainly the phoenix then that have the V to collect water as opposed to the ^ to deflect it.
(this was the explanation given to me when i first noticed on my jubaea)

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:49 pm
by Nigel
Sorry Darr only joking, phoenix has an unusual leaf arrangement for the palm world with its unusual inverted V. Maybe you are right and its an adaptation to collect water given that most grow in arid climates.

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:37 pm
by Ste
Did you manage to get a pic of your JxB Darren? Interested to see what a small one looks like.

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:50 pm
by redsquirrel
i did just as it was getting dark. its quite a pale green but has grown a little this year after potting it up a bit.when i got it,was in the same pot but only half filled,all i did this year was lift it and fill the pot with fresh ji and a bit of grit

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:46 am
by Nigel
Darr what was the source of that plant?

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:50 am
by redsquirrel
Barry when he sold his collection. i had a naggy at the same time .the naggy came from the palm centre ,the jubutia i cant remember. every possibilty you supplied it him?? icon_thumright

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:13 am
by Nigel
It looks same as mine here , Barry took some from me when I shut up shop.

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:16 am
by Yorkshire Kris
Nigel wrote:It looks same as mine here , Barry took some from me when I shut up shop.

So how old is the one in the photo?

Re: Butia Odorata.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:47 am
by Ste
Thanks for the photo Darren. Like kris says, how old is yours? How much further on is yours compared to if I order one from amulree which is just putting split leaves out now? A year or so?