Sabal minor.

karl66 · Post by **karl66** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:46 pm

Are these best planted in full sun or can they grow well in semi shade?, i know they grow at a snails pace. karl.

Steph · Post by **Steph** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:38 pm

Mine is doing OK in a hot house conservatory, guess it may slow down outside.

Post by **Dave Brown** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:46 pm

karl66 wrote:Are these best planted in full sun or can they grow well in semi shade?, i know they grow at a snails pace. karl.

They are quite hardy, but need to be as HOT as possible to grow well.

Member Turtile has studied these in his local area Delaware US, and says you need to 'better' the 90/90 rule, to do well. The 90/90 rule is 90F (32C) for at least 90 Days a year. I think I read somewhere that Sabal minor starts growing at 80F 26.5C. Below that nothing at all happens

Given, the above you need the sunniest, microclimate outside to succeed, or bake it in a greenhouse/conservatory

Yorkshire Kris · Post by **Yorkshire Kris** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:50 pm

They need full sun, ideally indoors or at least in a super hot area with perhaps a plastic shelter over the top to increase the temps/

karl66 · Post by **karl66** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:25 pm

Ok thanks, i've planted it in one of my last sunny spots but with a fence behind for shelter, I picked up a 30/40 litre pot which was rammed with roots & has 3 seperate clumps growing, a really big plant. Not bought one before but i thought £30 was a good buy?. karl.

Andy Martin · Post by **Andy Martin** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:25 pm

I bought a Sabal Minor from Amulree last January and left it out during the February freeze. Mine too had three growing points the smallest of which spear pulled and is just regrowing now. It did send up a flower spike. its in a south east facing position still alive and still in the pot.

I also have a different Sabal in the ground in deep sandy
soil thats just luvvin it

Post by **Dave Brown** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:12 pm

Andy Martin wrote:I also have a different Sabal in the ground in deep sandy
soil thats just luvvin it

Are you sure it's a Sabal then

karl66 · Post by **karl66** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:02 am

Andy, if it thrives in sandy soil you may have the even more desirable sabal palmetto!!. karl.

Conifers · Post by **Conifers** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:14 am

Andy Martin wrote: It did send up a flower spike.

That doesn't sound like a Sabal! We need pics!

Post by **Dave Brown** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:30 am

Conifers wrote:
Andy Martin wrote: It did send up a flower spike.
That doesn't sound like a Sabal! We need pics!

Sabal minor flowers small and has an inflorescence taller than the leaves, so could be described as a spike, but they prefer swampy conditions.

If they have been bought in from Southern Europe it is possible that they were happy enough to flower.

Andy Martin · Post by **Andy Martin** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:08 pm

Hi all .... heres my Sabal with the flower spike...

And here's my sabal IMO not Minor thats just luvvin it

Yep... miracles do happen here in tropical Oxford.... not

redsquirrel · Post by **redsquirrel** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:51 pm

yep, id agree with that Andy

deffo a flower spike

plenty of water during warm spells might be the key,if you have a good microclimate going on,this summer was probably ideal for them

GREVILLE · Post by **GREVILLE** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:17 pm

The best result I ever had from a planted out Sabal Minor was two leaves and a spear. It took a warm south west facing wall in full sun and the hot summer of 2003 to do it. I almost managed a fourth leaf on a nearby Sabal palmetto the same year.

This year? Palmetto has managed one leaf and a spear so far. The S. minor? None. It carked a few years ago

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