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Tree selection help

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:44 am
by Mr List
EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila


https://www.google.co.uk/#q=EUCALYPTUS+ ... iphophila+

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/plantselector/plant?plantid=756

I am looking for a tree/shrub that is 3m-6m tall and this is one I am considering.

the info on the height of this plant varies on every page I have read, anybody got real info?
also I don't want to get this tree if it will totally dry out the area.
I think somebody said eucalyptus totally suck up all the water but I wasn't sure if it would be true for this one.

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:32 am
by Conifers
Mr List wrote: anybody got real info?
15-25 metres.
Mr List wrote: also I don't want to get this tree if it will totally dry out the area.
I think somebody said eucalyptus totally suck up all the water but I wasn't sure if it would be true for this one.
Don't worry, not true. Like any tree it will have some drying effect, but it is less than e.g. willows do.

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:53 am
by Mr List
really that big?!!!

nowhere has said that big for this one. off the list then.

what about salix magnifica?
or
Koelreuteria paniculata 'Coral Sun'

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:58 am
by charliepridham
For me it topped out at around only 5M and died in the cold 2009, I loved it and have since planted another to replace it

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:11 am
by Dave Brown
Need to be managed, but coppicing or stooling works well, and once you have multiple stems they can be cut in succession keeping overall height under control. :wink:

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:23 am
by Kristen
I've grown E. niphophila from seed, and I love it too.

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:29 am
by Conifers
Mr List wrote:really that big?!!!
Yep. There's plenty around the country in that size range, though I'd guess it isn't likely to get over around 18m in cooler regions like Yorks. One in Ireland is 26m tall. One in Somerset also has a trunk over 80cm diameter. It isn't a small tree as often claimed.
Mr List wrote:what about salix magnifica?
or
Koelreuteria paniculata 'Coral Sun'
Salix magnifica is a good choice; its limit is around 6 metres tall, and usually less, and has very nice foliage. Koelreuteria - attractive when in leaf, but it doesn't have a long season in leaf. If I recall rightly, the last one I saw was only just starting to leaf out in early June. It needs very hot summers to do well.

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:41 pm
by Mr List
I quite fancied salix magnifica but it seems like it might be very hard to get hold of up here and I want more of a tree than a shrub.

what about roots on salix magnifica , invasive?

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:00 pm
by fern Rob
I highly recommend http://www.grafton-nursery.co.uk/kangaroots.htm if you are after buying a Eucalyptus.

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:41 pm
by Conifers
Mr List wrote:I quite fancied salix magnifica but it seems like it might be very hard to get hold of up here and I want more of a tree than a shrub.
Should be easy enough by mail order.
Mr List wrote:what about roots on salix magnifica , invasive?
Nothing to worry about. That's only a problem with large tree-size willows like Salix alba and Salix fragilis.

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:17 pm
by GREVILLE
This behaves well for me by hard pruning the leading shoot every year. The bark is a real feature.

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:19 am
by Mr List
Conifers wrote:
Mr List wrote:I quite fancied salix magnifica but it seems like it might be very hard to get hold of up here and I want more of a tree than a shrub.
Should be easy enough by mail order.
Mr List wrote:what about roots on salix magnifica , invasive?
Nothing to worry about. That's only a problem with large tree-size willows like Salix alba and Salix fragilis.
only seem to be two places online,
pan global that doesn't deliver and urban jungle that says 'nursery only' because of size.

Re: Tree selection help

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:26 am
by Mr List
also like the look of Cercis canadensis 'Forest Pansy' but I am worried it is too big
extra info on this plant please

I am also wondering if there are fancy/exotic types of lilac/ syringa
most notably looking for foliage that doesn't have the distinct look of common lilac foliage

Re: EUCALYPTUS pauciflora subsp. niphophila

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:01 am
by Conifers
Mr List wrote:only seem to be two places online,
pan global that doesn't deliver and urban jungle that says 'nursery only' because of size.
Plenty of places to get it, according to RHS Plantfinder

Re: Tree selection help

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:01 am
by Yorkshire Kris
Where is the tree going?