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Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:17 am
by kata
So Rob,

You would'nt mind cabbage whites eating your Fern leaves. Remember how some creature spoiled my Fern last year?
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Whatever, Cabbage White or the Moths that have never gone away since I bought the Fern just carried on eating till I got the water feature.

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Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:33 am
by fern Rob
kata wrote:So Rob,

You would'nt mind cabbage whites eating your Fern leaves. Remember how some creature spoiled my Fern last year?
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Whatever, Cabbage White or the Moths that have never gone away since I bought the Fern just carried on eating till I got the water feature.

:(
Honestly i would move them, there isn't enough butterflies in my opinion. Why does the water feature stop the damage?

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:53 am
by kata
I can't move it, Insects have wings anyway... :lol: :lol:

Errm..Water would drown them... :lol: :lol: so they don't go near. The Moths are hovering in wait for a juicy leaf to eat at the moment.

Safe yet as there is no leaf when one is ready to emerge from the crown the water feature will be turned on and left on.

How would you like your Fern to look like that...you would'nt!!

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:15 pm
by Yorkshire Kris
AAAAAAnyway.... the Alder buckthorn plants are now planted and ready to leaf up and established and wait to be eaten by Brimstone Caterpillars. :D

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:55 pm
by samtobuk
Are you sure they are moths? Firstly almost all moths only fly at night (there are a few exceptions), so unless you are out there with a torch they are more likely lacewings or something like that, and secondly I've never heard of any species that feed on ferns and I've been into lepidoptera since I was a teenager (could be wrong though). Leaves are pretty tough to chew through.

Can't think why the presence of water feature would have any impact either, some might be attracted by water but wouldn't repel any.

Sorry, can't help but defend my moths!! :lol:

Glad to hear the Buckthorns are in, sure some Brimstones will be along shortly if we get more sunny days like today to reward you with a few eggs! icon_sunny

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:50 am
by Alexander
Knautia arvensis and Scabiosa columbaria are also good nectarplants fot butterflies. And do start flowering earlier then Budleia.

Alexander

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:07 pm
by Tom2006
Can't beat buddleia. Mine was covered in butterflies from the moment it flowered last summer. The nice weather saw a population boom and they were literally queuing up for flower space.

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:56 am
by Alexander
Buddleia seems to be number 1 for butterflies indeed! They prefair the Chinese instead of native stuff...

Alexander

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:41 am
by RogerBacardy
Saw some butterflies on Sunday:

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Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:41 am
by RogerBacardy
double post - d'oh!

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:44 am
by RogerBacardy
The place that had the butterfly enclosure also had plants for sale, including some exotics (E.G. cannas, ensetes and gingers in leaf), but funnily enough a load of them had been nibbled on, as if there were caterpillar damage! :)

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:29 am
by kata
AAAAAAnyway.
:lol: :lol: Kris

Sam, no real solution last year, when I can then I will bring an Image. Its a two white winged creature, also been here all winter just hovering the lawn.

would love to know what it is then I could treat the Fern.

They could be baby cabbage whites as I found another Caterpillar yesterday on a plant I was recycling.

Lovely Butterflies Rog!!

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:33 am
by Alexander
Here the tropical butterfly Caligo atreus catterpillars love the leaves of Hedychiums and Musa. Also some palms and Strelitzia they like. Well its a beautifull butterfly so it may eat some of the plants. Well in the tropical butterflygarden here in town. And thanks mainly to those Hedychiums I did introduce a couple of years ago there are now many Caligo atreus. And if I find catterpillars on slow growing Strelitzia nicolai of palms I pick them up and place them on vast growing Musa ornata.

Alexander

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:38 pm
by MonkeyDavid
Most species of butterfly will only lay their eggs on a specific 2 or 3 species of plants, most of which are native 'weeds', shrubs or trees. As Kris says-no catterpillars, no butterflys

Re: Planting for butterflies

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:56 pm
by fern Rob
MonkeyDavid wrote:Most species of butterfly will only lay their eggs on a specific 2 or 3 species of plants, most of which are native 'weeds', shrubs or trees. As Kris says-no catterpillars, no butterflys
Im fond of caterpillars in the garden.