Outlook might be changing ????

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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Tom2006 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:33 pm

Agree with you Nigel. Things looking above average. Long may it continue.
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Dave Brown » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:05 am

Just grey, grey, grey gloom and more grey. They keep saying it will brighten up on the forecast but after 3 days of continuous gloom, I'm not bothering to watch now.
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Conifers » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:11 pm

Sunshine & showers here, but remaining chilly (not seriously cold, just a degree or two below average for the time of year), and no warmup expected.


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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Dave Brown » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:09 pm

got dark at 2:30pm :ahhh!: :ahhh!: :ahhh!:
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by cordyman » Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:33 am

Dave Brown wrote:got dark at 2:30pm :ahhh!: :ahhh!: :ahhh!:
How's it looking this morning?


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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Tom2006 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:13 am

Early signs of something much colder as we move towards the third week ofthe month
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Nigel » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:44 am

Typically, historically , especially in the mild years , quite often the last third of November saw the first arctic plunge of winter, so I wouldnt be surprised.
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by stephenprudence » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:42 am

Recently in my location it's been consistently cool if not cold recently. This morning backed that up greatly.. it was only "supposed" to fall to around 5C but ended up falling to 1.5C. Colder than most of the UK this morning. I suspect there's a role reversal going on, that means coastal estuary areas are going to be colder than inland areas from now on, indeed that's become the trend, but it wasn't always like this.
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Dave Brown » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:29 am

cordyman wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:got dark at 2:30pm :ahhh!: :ahhh!: :ahhh!:
How's it looking this morning?
Started off clear and cold with low of 3.1°C at 07:30, then clouded over and is currently (11:21) 6.4°C and moderate rain. A well below average November day, and most unusually cold for a 20mph southerly wind. :roll:
stephenprudence wrote:I suspect there's a role reversal going on, that means coastal estuary areas are going to be colder than inland areas from now on
Stephen, that is 'sheeple' Daily Express talk :lol: Why do you think it will be colder in Estuaries ? Are we expecting prolonged inversion layers in these stormy periods ?
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by stephenprudence » Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:09 pm

Just my experience.. I remember 5-10 years ago, we always used to get higher than inland areas in any situation (High pressure, low pressure, no matter the wind direction), it's definitely changed since 2009, and has remained that way. Recently I have been recording lower than even inland areas of UK (not frost hollows), but most other places. Even daytime temperatures don't respond either.

I don't feel short changed, because that's just the way it is, however it gets too uncomfortable at times :wink:
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Dave Brown » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:46 pm

stephenprudence wrote:Just my experience.. I remember 5-10 years ago, we always used to get higher than inland areas in any situation (High pressure, low pressure, no matter the wind direction), it's definitely changed since 2009
I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but I would say that was lack of experience, in terms of years. For me from 2009 onwards, we returned to what we had before the mild period. :wink:
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by cordyman » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:07 pm

Dave Brown wrote:
cordyman wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:got dark at 2:30pm :ahhh!: :ahhh!: :ahhh!:
How's it looking this morning?
Started off clear and cold with low of 3.1°C at 07:30, then clouded over and is currently (11:21) 6.4°C and moderate rain. A well below average November day, and most unusually cold for a 20mph southerly wind. :roll:
stephenprudence wrote:I suspect there's a role reversal going on, that means coastal estuary areas are going to be colder than inland areas from now on
Stephen, that is 'sheeple' Daily Express talk :lol: Why do you think it will be colder in Estuaries ? Are we expecting prolonged inversion layers in these stormy periods ?
started off great here, clear blue and great weather, now heavy rain and clouded over :(

This morning, look at all the leaves on trees still :shock:

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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by Dave Brown » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:21 pm

Sky at 08:12 and had started to rain shortly after 9am
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by sanatic1234 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:53 pm

There could be a change in the weather in 7-10 days time. Could be nothing certain if so will be the first real cold spell of autumn.
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Re: Outlook remains excellent

Post by stephenprudence » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:33 am

Yes there is some consistency now on a rather strong cold northerly, then frosty high pressure scenario developing. Whether this pans out like 90s style winters or like 2010 depends on Greenland. If the Greenland High sets up then we could be in for a horrible late November/December period, but should the Greenland High pressure be replaced by low pressure then we will have a cold late November, but still fairly mobile, without much in the way of damaging frost (but plenty of snow)
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