trachycarpus manipur
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Springy wrote:This is my palm that I purchased as Manipur. I have only had it just over a year and it was fine over last winter and even pushed a leaf out!
It will be planted in a sheltered sunny spot this year.
This looks very much like T. oreophilus.
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Isn't that just another name for Manipur?David York wrote:Springy wrote:This is my palm that I purchased as Manipur. I have only had it just over a year and it was fine over last winter and even pushed a leaf out!
It will be planted in a sheltered sunny spot this year.
This looks very much like T. oreophilus.
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Trachycarpus oreophilus from northern Thailand.
Trachycarpus ukhrulensis (still being called by many by its temporary name Trachycarpus.sp. 'Manipur'), from Manipur State, India.
Two completely different species separated by almost 1000 kilometers.
Trachycarpus ukhrulensis (still being called by many by its temporary name Trachycarpus.sp. 'Manipur'), from Manipur State, India.
Two completely different species separated by almost 1000 kilometers.
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Springy's plant may well be T. ukhrulensis (ex 'Manipur'), but at the moment it has a look of T. oreophilus. As it gets bigger, it will hopefully become clearer as to which species it actually is.
There are several growers selling T. oreophilus as T. ukhrulensis (ex 'Manipur'), so this isn't really helping with correct naming.
There are several growers selling T. oreophilus as T. ukhrulensis (ex 'Manipur'), so this isn't really helping with correct naming.
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Thanks for your opinion David. I never got to planting it in the end. I'm not sure just where to place it at the moment and now it's too late to plant it until next spring!David York wrote:Springy's plant may well be T. ukhrulensis (ex 'Manipur'), but at the moment it has a look of T. oreophilus. As it gets bigger, it will hopefully become clearer as to which species it actually is.
There are several growers selling T. oreophilus as T. ukhrulessis (ex 'Manipur'), so this isn't really helping with correct naming.
I'm not sure if it even put out many leaves last year.
I know that it looks different from my trachies so it will be interesting to see what happens with it.
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I think I bought it from europalms but just clicked on their website and it doesn't seem to be working at the moment!
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I fear that Europalms may have ceased trading. This is very sad, as I have had many fine plants from James over the years.
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So how does that make you think as to the correct naming of my palm?!David York wrote:I fear that Europalms may have ceased trading. This is very sad, as I have had many fine plants from James over the years.
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Springy, it doesn't. Merely a comment regarding Europalms, because you had mentioned them and their website.
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Ah it's just that you said that some growers were labelling them incorrectly, I wondered just how accurate their labelling was at europalms and your opinion on this now that you know the supplier?!David York wrote:Springy, it doesn't. Merely a comment regarding Europalms, because you had mentioned them and their website.
Were they pretty accurate as I'd never purchased from them before?!
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Thanks, I remembered that when I bought my Manipur it came labelled as something else but couldn't remember what. Not that I see it written down it was definitely ukhrulensis.David York wrote:Trachycarpus oreophilus from northern Thailand.
Trachycarpus ukhrulensis (still being called by many by its temporary name Trachycarpus.sp. 'Manipur'), from Manipur State, India.
Two completely different species separated by almost 1000 kilometers.
Here's a pic of mine which has been settling in nicely since it was planted last spring:
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That certainly looks like T. ukhrulensis for sure. Nice Manihot too!GoggleboxUK wrote:Thanks, I remembered that when I bought my Manipur it came labelled as something else but couldn't remember what. Not that I see it written down it was definitely ukhrulensis.David York wrote:Trachycarpus oreophilus from northern Thailand.
Trachycarpus ukhrulensis (still being called by many by its temporary name Trachycarpus.sp. 'Manipur'), from Manipur State, India.
Two completely different species separated by almost 1000 kilometers.
Here's a pic of mine which has been settling in nicely since it was planted last spring:
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I didn't mean that James's plants were mislabelled. Most of the time, his stuff was pretty accurate and the only time it might have been wrong was if, for example he had acquired seeds in good faith of a particular species that turned out to be something else.Springy wrote:Ah it's just that you said that some growers were labelling them incorrectly, I wondered just how accurate their labelling was at europalms and your opinion on this now that you know the supplier?!David York wrote:Springy, it doesn't. Merely a comment regarding Europalms, because you had mentioned them and their website.
Were they pretty accurate as I'd never purchased from them before?!
Your plant might well be correct, and time will tell. When I saw the plant, it did remind remind me of a young oreophilus.
Having said that, they are difficult to tell apart when young. As they get bigger, they start to look very different and then it will be easier to identify.
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Thanks David but that's a Schefflera Rhododendrifolia not a ManihotDavid York wrote:That certainly looks like T. ukhrulensis for sure. Nice Manihot too!