Trachycarpus Latisectus.

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Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Half Hardy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:31 pm

I have been growing some young palms in pots,for a few years, with the intention of planting them out permanently.They spend the first couple of years in the frostfree greenhouse and the winter, before planting, in the unheated polytunnel,to harden them off a bit.I like to add a few new ones each year.In 2010 it was chamaerhops humilis,T.fortunei x2,cipd,butia odorata(R.I.P).2011 Brahea armata,chamaerhops cerifera,another butia odorata.2013 butia eriospatha,T.princeps.

I have a couple planned for next spring.Each year I am going to have to take a bigger risk.I do have a nice sized jubaea,which should be a safe bet but I want to be certain I am not going to move house before I plant it out.

Top of my list for 2014 is my T.latisectus.Has anyone tried one,in the ground? If so how is it looking?
What winter protection do you give it(if any)?

Here are some pictures of the chosen one.I am particularly pleased with the 360 degree leaf,hopefully it will send out a few more.Do you think it is big enough(pot is about 5l) or I should I grow it on a bit more?
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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Dave Brown » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:35 pm

Sorry Half Hardy, but that is not latisectus. Looks like a 360 fortunei of which I have several

Latisectus has quite a distinctive leaf. I'll see if I can find the pics I have of the one at the Palm Centre.
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Post by Dave Brown » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:44 pm

Here is the one at the Palm Centre a few years ago
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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:48 pm

That's not a latisectus it's a fortunei or nantital.

About 3 years ago a bought a "latisectus"that looks exactly like yours and it's certainly not one. I have subsequently bought a proper latisectus and it looks different.


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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Half Hardy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:00 pm

Yorkshire Kris wrote:That's not a latisectus it's a fortunei or nantital.

About 3 years ago a bought a "latisectus"that looks exactly like yours and it's certainly not one. I have subsequently bought a proper latisectus and it looks different.
Thanks Kris and Dave,I must admit I am not too surprised they were incorrectly labelled,most of them were bought about 3 yrs ago.It seems to me,that there was a lot of confusion and misnamaing in the industry back then.Luckily I bought enough that I stand a good chance of having at least 1 of each variety.

So to start my post again....Here are some randomly named Trachycarpus palms.Which would you put in the ground first? Most of them are fairly obvious which is which but I have a feeling the last pictured one is incorrectly labelled,any guesses?
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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:57 pm

ukhrulensis (Manipur)


Waggy

Latisectus

Princeps (in rude health!)

Nainital (probably)


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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Half Hardy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:52 pm

Yorkshire Kris wrote:ukhrulensis (Manipur)


Waggy

Latisectus

Princeps (in rude health!)

Nainital (probably)
Here's what they were sold to me as.

oreophilus

Waggy

Manipur/naga hill

Princeps (my favourite but don't tell the other palms :wink: )

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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:45 pm

The first one could possibly be an Oreophilus as they look similar to my untrained eyes to Ukhrulensis when young.


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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by David York » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:58 pm

To me also, they look like

ukhrulensis (for certain)
wagnerianus (for certain)
latisectus (for certain)
princeps (for certain)
nainital (almost certain)
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Post by karl66 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:00 am

Half hardy, the last pic does resemble a nanital as it has the spreading/creeping look at the trunk, although most nanital I've seen have longer frond's. To confuse you even more I have a waggy/fortunei hybrid that could be it's twin!!. karl.


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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Nigel » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:33 am

David York wrote:To me also, they look like

ukhrulensis (for certain)
wagnerianus (for certain)
latisectus (for certain)
princeps (for certain)
nainital (almost certain)

Agreed, rarepalmseeds are selling manipur/ukhru seeds as oreophilus which to me is insanity. Therefore a lot of manipurs will be cropping up mislabelled as oroephilus in years to follow.
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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Half Hardy » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:46 am

Thanks for your time everyone,I know there's many years of knowledge and experience between you.So it's nice to have a reliable opinion.

Just one more to id. This is supposed to be T.takil,yea or nay?
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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Yorkshire Kris » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:04 am

Half Hardy wrote:Thanks for your time everyone,I know there's many years of knowledge and experience between you.So it's nice to have a reliable opinion.

Just one more to id. This is supposed to be T.takil,yea or nay?

I have no idea yet as there are't any mature leaves to see.


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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by Half Hardy » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:12 am

Apparently,you can id by the number of ridges on the early strap leaf.It's too late now they have all grown.


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Re: Trachycarpus Latisectus.

Post by David York » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:48 pm

Half Hardy wrote:Thanks for your time everyone,I know there's many years of knowledge and experience between you.So it's nice to have a reliable opinion.

Just one more to id. This is supposed to be T.takil,yea or nay?
Can't say at this stage. It needs to grow some more.

It is said that the very first leaf should have two ridges.
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